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When can we ban the owners of rap/hiphop companies from mouthing off?
Why don't you shut the hell up you joke. Always looking for a reason to dip your slimy fingers in the subtle racism sugar bowl huh?
@11:58 Nice deflection and false equivalency.Apparently you're a bit clueless about the economics of this. Sterling's outed racism caused major sponsors to distance themselves from the Clippers. Had there been inaction or merely a tap on the wrist, the NBA would've been dropped next. The NBA is a business and as such is concerned about the billions it could've potentially lost as a result of Sterling damaging its brand.
Nice double standards, 12:23 and 3:27!!! Yay Eric Holder and re-education!!!!!!!!!
@4:04Both you and Sterling have a long way to go.
7:21, care to explain yourself? How is my noting that people DO have double standards when it comes to racism make me akin to Sterling? Have you not heard the racist spew on rap releases? Have you not heard the vile things said about people with European ancestry from many people of color? How are those things acceptable? It seems to me YOU'RE a bird of Sterling's feather, just a slightly different color...
@9:17Re-read the comments at 3:27 and if you're too stupid to understand the underlying reason behind the NBA's decision, you can't be helped. Then again, your ilk is a lost cause anyway. BTW, I'm white, so the gibberish in your last line only solidifies the fact that you and Sterling are certainly bedfellows.
Ahh, the leftist way, resorting to insults.Your reading comprehension might not be what you think it is. The birds of a feather slightly different color comment was metaphorical, not literal. But you all are as fundamentalist in your views and perspectives as the "fundys" you all love to hate!I understand the rationale explained by the nba on this. I don't see why it isn't applied to the equally hateful, disturbing, racist, and misogynist type statements PUBLICLY (not on a surreptitiously obtained recording...) by rappers/hiphoppers.Also strange you you equate my questioning of things with being a bedfellow of Sterling's. One can dislike/be disgusted with Sterling's remarks and at the same time note the massive public hate by rappers. Unless of course, one is on the animal farm you reside on, Napoleon. Peace and love, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
"The birds of a feather slightly different color comment was metaphorical, not literal."Way to slither out from under, wing-nut."I understand the rationale explained by the nba on this."Clearly, you don't have the faintest clue. "One can dislike/be disgusted with Sterling's remarks and at the same time note the massive public hate by rappers."If only that were the case. You're a Sterling sympathizer--amongst other things--who's not the least bit disgusted by his remarks. It's probably not a stretch to assume you've already huddled with other members of your toothless cadre to snivel about how wronged he was."Unless of course, one is on the animal farm you reside on, Napoleon."If anyone should know about "animal farms," it would certainly be you.Yeeee-hah!!!
Four legs good, two legs baaaaad. No slithering, you jackass, just reiterating my point. I know a lot of stupid white people. They're not stupid because they're white, they're stupid either willfully, through indoctrination, or because they just were made that way (I"m thinking of Stan on that last one...)You leftists are so filled with love. "Wing nut". I'd bet you meant that in the pejorative, but for one thing, no matter how you may wish to label me, I'm pretty much centrist. I am pro second amendment, but I support a woman's right to choose. I think pot should be legal for recreational use as well as medicinal, just tax and regulate it. I was baptized in a black church, but have no time for hypocritical race-card players.By the way, wing nuts are used to hold things together. Not really such a negative thing, wouldn't you say?
You know, 1:41, you're as bad as Stan with your ASSumptions about my views. If you think I'm a Sterling sympathizer, you probably also think that Senator Robert Byrd was a great guy just because he was a democrat, even though he was in the KKK...
Radnich at 8:45 last night on TV called Sterling, " an old cracker!" This is a slur!
Gary Radnich has a "ghetto pass", because he is married to a black woman. He is entitled to do and say things that a normal white can't do.
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Can't wait to hear Stan's personal outrage about this. Although it's challenging for a rational person to find anything to complain about, I'm sure Stan will come up with something.Cue the violins and get ready to hear some of Stan's, historically confused, politically nonsensical, self-righteous, self-glorifying, indignation. Stan, don't forget to mention Doctor Martin Luther King, Cesar Chavez.
Frank, that was my first thought, too. If the (thankfully) retiring Selig had a fraction of the backbone that Silver displayed ... after only a few months on the job ... the whole "doping scandal," would have been cut short, and handled long before McGuire, and company, were hauled before Congress.
There's more racism against whites overall worldwide.
and the folks responding to the first comment here reemphasize that
Yeah! We whites have been persecuted and disenfranchised for far too long! Moron.
Hey 4:06, you cretin, how about women who are called "ho" and "bitch" and more on countless rap albums, no matter their skin color? Where is the outrage about that?
"...how about women who are called "ho" and "bitch" and more on countless rap albums, no matter their skin color? Where is the outrage about that?"As long as white suburban teens continue to fork over millions to buy this music, it's not going away.
7:27, plenty of people of all colors buying it.But to relate your point to the nba. Lots of people were going to Clippers games, and more to the point, all the players and coaches were cashing Sterling's checks. Why the outrage there, and not against violence and hate inciting rap/hiphop?
"7:27, plenty of people of all colors buying it."Yes, especially those of white European ancestry. Perhaps if you venture outside of your hole and see the rest of the world, you'll discover that rap music is highly popular in not only suburban white America but also many "white" parts of Europe."But to relate your point to the nba."A laughable dictate coming from someone who deflected the initial topic in the first place.
Does who is buying it change how vile it is? It's the producers who are the trouble makers, just as Sterling was in this case. Rap is a vile blight on our society, responsible for a violent and hateful mindset that involves racism by those producing it. Why not apply the same opprobrium to the rap producers as that applied to Sterling? The problem is the same, just the color of skin of those involved differ.
"Does who is buying it change how vile it is? It's the producers who are the trouble makers..."If you're referring to the white executives and major music labels who profited from white American teens and European kids buying the music, then it's pretty obvious that while your delicate feelings were hurt over the vile lyrics, the execs' pockets were teeming with cash.
1:49, Jay Z is white?
Either you are truly stupid or willfully obtuse. Whatever the case, your shifty, nonsensical ramblings have now become a bore.
10:10, project much?There comparison is completely valid. You may not want to recognize that as it would destroy your illusory world created by self-hate and false guilt, but that's your problem, and likely (unfortunately as well) ours as well since you likely vote and put people like Pelosi, Boxer, and Obama in office. If JFK were to run for office today, you'd consider him too conservative, wouldn't you? And Dr. King was probably an Uncle Tom to you, as he was about peaceful change, not the "by any means necessary" crap that the Malcom Xers of the last 45 years have pushed...
Hey, 10:10 PM, look up "5%er" and see where Jay Z is with that. Tell me that's OK. He's got a lot of money and influence, where is the outrage against his views? Where is the outrage against "music" that uses the words "nigger" "bitch" "ho" (whore) and so on, as well as inciting violence towards whites? Why is THAT OK? I've never once here said that what Sterling did/said was OK, that's all been your (asinine) inference. All I'm saying is that it's hypocrisy of a very high order for all these hand wringers to go on about that stupid old man's bullshit and not get upset about the blatant racism in the rap/hiphop world that permeates our current society.
Silver did something that Bud "Lite" Selig couldn't do during the steroid scandal: show some cahones. Barry Bonds' transgressions don't come close to what Sterling did but it's still pretty close. Silver did the right thing. Too bad Selig never did.
There is something bigger going on here and the mainstream media and NBA is furthering the cause. It has been quietly reported that Magic Johnson wants to buy a basketball team, they have figured out how to make that happen.
Something needed to be done about this guy and I'm glad that the Commissioner put the hammer down. This guy had a history of saying and doing things that were obviously racist and the previous Commissioner turned a blind eye. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, it has to do with treating people like human beings not like property. Oh and by the way the money grubbing tramp who recorded the conversation is most likely to be sued by him...
Far more often than what pleases me, this IS a sports blog, but yes, this story has lots of cross-over topical spillage. It may be about time to remove the 'curse' from Pete Rose, and put him into the Hall of Fame. Today's pro sports are chock full of dunces, lowlifes and career criminals, so the little bit of Tiddly Wink Gambling Pete did is nothing by comparison. He has already served his penance for his 'sins'.
Couldn't happen to a better person.
This mean I can sit up front and court-side now?
"Banned for life". He's 80 and in poor health. So, what? Maybe a year or two. I guess it's the thought that counts......and then there's the fact that his comments - as disgusting as they were - were made privately. So.......hmmmmm
Maybe next we can get Lee Hammer fired,who has done everything he can to keep African Americans and people of color off of KNBR since he's been there. I don't even see them as interns. But since Cumulus is run by that mentality,we have to have it rubbed in our faces. And I'm sure Rod Brooks would agree and also Ralph Barbieri who would represent people with disabilities.
Stan, just go away.
Stan should be the one banned for life from 415 Media.
Amen to that 4:42.
Exactly what 4:42 said. BAN STAN FOR LIFE. I would say banning him from breathing air too but that is perhaps too harsh.
Just wish he would go away.
Good call on banishing this guy from the NBA - forever. I imagine that anyone of color and otherwise which include the players, fans, owners, people from the top right on down to the valets, security guards, ushers and vendors, etc. would be uncomfortable with him around - even if he were with the visiting team.
Amazing that the NBA, under a guy in "control" for 2 months with a 20 year track record can, with help, get the league to react as quickly as it did and rightfully. If only Congress was paying attention, they might learn something -- but doubtful.
Yet another perfect example of "You may have freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean you should always use it." So much for the "tape recording" of "so called free speech." People like Karel need to know the law and not make it up as convenience for theselves.
I'm surprised at all the praise given to the commissioner here. The NBA sat on this for 20 years until it got too hot for them. This decision was the biggest no-brainer in the history of business. It was done to save their arse...not to stand up for some moral belief. if it was the latter Sterling would have been gone long ago.
The Crime doesn't FIT the Punishment. Now chew on that.
This reminds me of the saying...."Those people who live in Glass Houses, shouldn't throw stones"
The point is -- it wasn't a crime. You can't legislate racism. Literally, "No harm, no foul." The constitution of the league with all it's clauses made swift judgement possible. He signed the NBA deal and they're free to act. They did. If the tape hadn't gotten to Harvey Levine at TMZ, this wouldn't have happened. This is - the tape wasn't, by law, used in court. It was played in the court of public opinion and with bailing sponsors, the NBA had to lay down its law outside the courtroom and fast. That simple.
I hope that Mitt Romney is laughing all the way to the bank over this. Having been caught ina "gotcha" by a cellphone video and audio in public, not in court, he was a sitting duck the minute the news hit MSNBC, CNN and later, Fox. Payback is a bitch, ain't it?
Still waiting for our "Failed" president's comments since the world is so quiet he can focus on his favorite pastime, the NBA.
Our "failed" president commented two days ago. Apparently you "failed" to read a paper, listen to the news or or the radio.........
Failed President?DUDE--Dubya's been out of office for six years now. He isn't the President anymore...so he has no need to comment.
9:43, delusional, are you? This country (and the glove overall) is in worse shape than we were in 2008. And I was no supporter of "W". (though I do get sick of seeing him get blamed for things that aren't his fault at this point)
I wonder if any of the Clipper players had even ever met Sterling personally....anyway, if the corporate sponsors hadn't bolted or objected, Sterling would still be involved in the day-to-day operations.It's still all about the $.
Tom Tolbert who played for the Clips said on his show today that Sterling was always in the players confines. He said Sterling treated players like they were his "property"; had a "Plantation Owner" mentality. He avoided him as much as possible.
For that type of Money, I'll be a "Plantation Boy"
Outraged African-Americans owe a debt of gratitude to Sterling's whore, as were it not for her actions the most recent racist thoughts of this man might have gone unnoticed. But I ask, where is my champion? I just know that people are out their hating those of my race, my beliefs, my occupation, and my politics. I feel the pain but know not which direction to turn. I need them outed, for only then can I luxuriate in the warm, soothing embrace of victimhood. Only then can I turn my attention away from my personal limitations and faults and place the blame for the problems of me and my kind where they truly belong, in the hearts and minds of the haters.I would only hope that I would find myself as gifted at conveying hurt and self-pity as are the super-rich black athletes now dominating our news broadcasts. They've moved me to an emotional depth I haven't experienced since witnessing their reaction to the Tawana Brawley tragedy.
They've moved me to an emotional depth I haven't experienced since witnessing their reaction to the Tawana Brawley tragedy.Wow Arse, you really are as colossal windbag. Maybe you shouldn't comment from such emotional depth, your brain may be suffering from oxygen deprivation.
The presence of my kind (windbags, to use your epithet) on this site apparently disturbs you; what else would account for your intolerant but otherwise meaningless reaction to my comment? Why don't you express your prejudice to Mr. Lieberman, convince him against associating with my kind. Hopefully he'll record it and the tape can be used to ruin you.
Arse Nardmann:"I would only hope that I would find myself as gifted at conveying hurt and self-pity as are the super-rich black athletes now dominating our news broadcasts."Isn't "Arse" German for ass?If so, there isn't a more befitting moniker.
....Hopefully he'll record it and the tape can be used to ruin you. Arse, you're not sympathizing with Donald Sterling are you? Maybe you are trapped at the that aforementioned "emotional depth" which prevents you from thinking clearly. Hope you can back up to the surface and breath the fresh air.
Sympathizing with Donald Sterling? How could I admit such a thing (or even entertain such a thought) now that I see the great enthusiasm our conditioned society has for the very un-American concept of ruining a man for holding unpopular opinions?No, I save my sympathy for my foolish countrymen who think that anyone in the world could actually hate us for our freedoms.
Anonymous @ 8:48 AM... I'm sure everyone reading your post was impressed by its content. Cutting wit.
Arse, you are a windbag, certainly your prerogative, but please don't get all in a dither when called out about it. Your verbose, convoluted, self-important prose demands it.
The bottom line is that bigotry is bad for business. See Paula Deen. Once sponsors started to bail, the NBA had to do something. The legality of the tape is irrelevant to the NBA constitution. Furthermore, anyone raising this issue is missing the point. This episode affects the entire brand, not just the Clippers. Mark Cuban is an idiot and one wonders how many skeletons he has in this closet. If a single franchise causes financial harm to the entire NBA brand, Sterling could be forced to sell. I normally don't give a whit about pampered athletes but this is an insult to all the working people, the kids, the people who work the front office, not just the athletes, who support this franchise. The NBA looked stupid for letting this guy slide by for so many years. Oh how I love the smell of fried racist in the morning.
Today Michael Savage blamed Sterling's racist rant on Barack Obama! Rich I don't expect you to print this, since we know which side your bread is shmeared on..
It has been fun listening to all the closet racists trying to defend Sterling by attacking the lover, Obama, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, good stamp recipients on and on....best coverage on this issue has been Tom Leykis. He had Roy Firestone yesterday and today spent three hours on the subject. The hillbillies came out of the woodwork on the phone lines.
Yeah, "hillbillies". Good one! If we describe those defending rap music as "jungle bunnies", is that OK?
Tolbert is just as spoiled as the rest of the NBA players.The owner made them all millionaires, he can treat them however he wants.
Can someone please explain something to me? If Donald Sterling was indeed a well known racist for some time, why was the NAACP going to present a lifetime achievement award to him?
because they and other leftists are the very essence of hypocrisy.