Years ago, KRON had "Bay TV" and it worked, for the most part. It was a daytime live newsblock built around breaking news, headlines, live shots and interviews. The ratings weren't robust enough to sustain a years-long status but the idea was solid and cohesive. Bay TV was built around NY One and a vital cog in Bay Area TV news/Info in the late 90's. It didn't make any money but problem was it lost lots of money.
You could probably make an effort today and it could be advanced without too prohibitive a cost. You have newsroom cameras in place. You have newsroom personnel on the premises. You could do live shots and cross-screen interviews. There's not a lot of financial heavy lifting.
Now if only KRON/Nexstar makes it happen.
KRON probably makes more money with their infomercials.
ReplyDeleteThey can't pull it off. They no longer have RADNICH!
ReplyDeleteWhere's Johnny the Goutman when you need him?
DeleteWhere'd you grow up punk?
DeleteABC 7 pre-empted The View this morning for over twenty minutes with a maps and a press conference from the new mayor of San Jose basically telling residents to prepare and stay home if possible. BORING. None of the other major networks cut into programming at 10 am to talk incessantly about a storm that really hasn't packed its punch yet.
ReplyDeleteSo yes...The Bay Area could use a local station like KRON with basically 24-7 live news blocks for those who want to watch. But it's kinda like watching paint drying when there's nothing happening yet i.e. todays storm. I wish ABC 7 in particular would stop interrupting regularly scheduled programming unless...IT'S AN EMERGENCY!! That goes for David Muir and the network too!! Who interrupted Barbra Walters' tribute yesterday to tell us....drumroll...Kevin McCarthy wasn't elected speaker. (Insert eyeroll.)
Do better ABC 7. The Bay Area you're building isn't always on fire. And some of us like regularly scheduled programming as opposed to staring at maps all morning.
ABC7 loves to sensationalize their stories. After all…..they are “Building a Better Bay Area” (Morons).
DeleteThey could preempt The View forever as far as I’m concerned.
DeleteI'd say that about The Price Is Right. Yet there it was. Uninterrupted as ever. Yawn.
DeleteI don't see what the big deal here is, because in case you don't already know Rich, and I actually think you do know, is that KRON already almost has that! They have been coming on at 4am for a long time now, and their morning news goes until 10am, just one hour less than what you are referring to in this story. And with the exception of having to put up with that Harvey girl, I actually like it!
ReplyDeleteLA also has KTLA and Fox11 doing the same all morning news show.
ReplyDeleteKTLA and FOX 11 is a different format compared to KRON.
DeleteNot sure if KCAL will have a KRON all news format or the circus format KGO is trying so hard on their 7am stream like you see on KTLA and FOX11 or Good Day Sacramento
''In for a penny, in for a pound". You mentioned previous efforts failed to yield ratings expectations. Q: What's changed? Maybe I'm the exception, but I prefer a concentrated espresso shot of my news and be on my merry way. Anything else is just repetitious regurgitation of SOS.
ReplyDeleteIn Boston, there is something similar to Bay TV, but on a regional level. Comcast owns a channel called NECN, or New England Cable News. The channel is available to Comcast subscribers and is carried on other cable systems in the New England states.
ReplyDeleteThe channel is run out of the NBC O&O in Boston, which provides reporters for stories and meteorologists who give a regional forecast. While most of the news stories on NECN are Boston-centric, there are other news stories covering the rest of the region that also air on NECN, with occasional reports from the NBC O&O in Hartford. The rest of the NBC stations in New England are owned by Sinclair, Tegna, Nexstar, and Hearst, so they do not contribute stories to NECN.
This is similar to what other cable companies have done in other markets, like Cablevision/Altice's News 12 in New York's suburbs and Charter/Spectrum's newscasts in upstate New York, North Carolina, Florida, and other areas.
While KRON can easily livestream and use a digital channel to broadcast a Bay TV version 2.0, they would have to negotiate with Comcast/Xfinity, Uverse, Direct TV, YouTube TV, etc. to make Bay TV available to subscribers.
"Bay TV is your TV"
ReplyDeleteKGO-TV, KPIX, and KNTV, maybe others, are promoting their 24-hour streaming services and apps for multiple platforms, which seems like an adequate evolution of the BayTV concept and it's not limited to cable. I haven't sampled much of the streaming...I imagine there are lots of OTA newscast replays and repetition...but they're staking out their digital territory at least, and the folks upset when news interrupts their sacred "Pictionary" episodes won't be so bothered.
ReplyDeleteI remember tuning in Bay TV just to watch Tracy Gallegher.
ReplyDeleteDo we really have to do the same as La or new york tv news does
ReplyDeleteI dont think so!
Who's been anchoring the 11pm news on KPIX so far this week? I can't find his pic on the KPIX website. They don't identify him on the air or via their butt-ugly new graphics. BTW, the KPIX website seems to have scrubbed all mentions of their channel number.
ReplyDeleteThey do identify him. His name is Reed Cowan. He’s not well liked.
DeleteHe’s the main 3PM anchor. Not well liked by just the viewers or also colleagues?
DeleteI was overseas and watched the archive.org version and Darren Peck did not like how he confused him with Paul and apologized at the end. Neither of them took it that hard and are likely in good terms.
He’s not that bad and he likes to balance his stern news delivery with a few jokes and wisdom.
He looks nothing like the Reed Cowan pic they have on their website, but OK, whatever.
DeleteFOX11 lol. Nobody watches them.
ReplyDeleteBayTV had about 1 hour of news a day - Evan White at 9
ReplyDeleteKRON has 13 hours of news a day online (and on your TV screen via streaming)
Bay TV had a lot more than 1 hour of news a day. I vaguely remember it being about 50% news and 50% public affairs programming.
DeleteLove the idea if I thought it would work. I always used to watch Bay TV, and when I lived in New York, NY 1. The problem is lack of KRON personnel. They'd either have to have a bunch of college interns doing reports, or it would turn into a TV version of KCBS.
ReplyDeleteKRON 4 is good as it is. It might get better if you have rising star anchor Reyna Harvey replace "diva" Darya...
ReplyDeleteHere’s the real problem with a Bay Area News/KRON 24 channel…those other 24 hr models like NY1, News 12, and Spectrum…they’re all owned by cable operators and viewed as a subscriber perk. The reality is, none of them make a boatload in advertising. The model is, we exist because we are a value ad for subscribers, and keep those subscribers from cutting the cord and going elsewhere for cable or streaming. KRON is only a channel, owned by Nexstar, not a cable operator…so what’s the incentive for Nexstar, which is cheap as crap, to build a perhaps slightly better than break even 24/7 news operation.
ReplyDeleteWinter time rain with made up level 5 warning
ReplyDeleteBay TV was not news all the time, it was mostly shows with news updates every hour and an hour long newscast at night. Some programs were Talk Issue with Pete Wilson, Bay Cafe with Joey Altman, Bookmark, New Media News and, and a bunch of college sporting events, it even aired the A's games. KRON has a version of Bay TV on its poorly named app KRONon. I would agree a 24/7 local version would work, a revised version of Bay TV with a bunch of local shows and a bunch of news updates. It would require a substantially beefed up staff, not just in news but in programming. If any station could do it, it would be KRON and would set itself apart. Ideas would include featuring more live programming and press conferences, more 30-minute sit down conversations, more community focused and driven programming such as shows highlighting community groups , and even more of its pay-to-play sales driven stuff. That said, I cannot watch KRON now or TV in general. It is all a bunch of 'press release' news, and breaking news that doesn't impact 99% of the audience.
ReplyDeleteI saw a few YT videos and the music is just like what they’re using on KPIX. Same thing on pluto tv
ReplyDelete"The ratings weren't robust enough to sustain a years-long status but the idea was solid and cohesive."
ReplyDeleteThis is hilarious, You forgot that TV is a business. Ideas don't make money. Ratings do
Does KRON4's Grant Lodes have a tic that causes him to pause and elongate every third word? Or is the teleprompter running too slowly? Drives...meeeeeee...friggin nuts!
ReplyDeleteGrant Lodes has all the charm and poise of a Soledad iHOP's lavatory.
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