I grew up in the LA area in the 60s and 70s. I was not aware we had our own Hearst-like publishing family. Enjoyed reading the LA Times and their magazines over the years there, including while at UC Irvine. They had an Orange County edition. Loved having the LA Times to read while visiting my parents in the San Gabriel Valley. I think the LA Times may be better than the Chronicle now. I suppose many will say both are too liberal. To your point, we are going to a piano concert at Dolby Theater in Hollywood for entertainment in October. 2 LA area baseball teams (one good, one so-so but with Ohtani), 2 basketball teams, 2 football teams (though for a time had none), etc. I think Entertainment King is right but they have homeless/drug issues as bad, if not worse, than SF.
The LA Times has gotten noticeably worse over the last few years, but it's still light-years ahead of the almost unreadable Chronicle. I subscribe to the Times because it has much better coverage of statewide news. I ended my Chronicle subscription several years ago. Got tired of giving money to a media outlet that's primarily focused on food and pushing a progressive agenda (I'm a left-leaning independent, but not nutty far-left.)
The LA Times is little more than an editorial page for the warped woke agenda of the owners daughter. Complete garbage, and not a newspaper in any sense.
LA, aka Tinseltown, is the Capitol of Movies, Records, and Theme Parks. Lots of interesting folks have been drawn to its stagelights. Yes, the Dodgers and their enablers destroyed a Latino community known as Chavez Ravine. Before that the Zoot Suit riots were perpetrated by a goon squad of cops and armed forces. There was once a thriving rock and roll scene, and the classical music, and jazz offerings are top notch. At one time the region produced a lot of our military’s aircraft. Not sure what is being made there anymore. California IS the straw that stirs the drink. One in 8 Americans is in California. Californians, with our federal tax dollars, support many of those states that hate Californians. I hope we can get true representative government and get our fair share of the taxes we contribute. LA, Eureka, Porterville, Brawley, Chico, Monterey, we may be all over the map, but we should all be proud Californians.
@6:51 Well, you have such a positive attitude, just like anywhere else don't go into the "negative" areas of the city(s), I've seen bad things happening now but go back 15 years ago it was much safer then, unbelievable how bad situations can manifest in a few years
"LA Wasn't Always So Vacuous". The cities industry was based on illusion. It pandered to ego and glorified narcissism. Selective memory is indeed intoxicating. Born and raised in the Bay Area and will die here...I wouldn't have it any other way. Besides, you can't grow good sourdough bread in La La Land.
I've never lived there , but have always enjoyed my visits to the LA area. Even though I live in the SF Bay Area, I frequently listen to an LA-area talk radio station, KFI-640. I'll grant sometimes the conversation turns to entertainment-industry topics that don't seem to be particularly important; for example, how often does a putative actor need to audition to get a part?
@1:11 We've always enjoyed driving to LA on HWY 5 and listening to all facets of music through different regions, great Hispanic music almost all the way, the closer you past middle CA good Country music, down in LA I noticed they have better pop, rock music stations, ah, those were the days, my friend
The Times was a very right-wing paper for decades; it was Norman and Dorothy Chandler (the latter of music-center pavilion fame) who boosted and supported Richard Nixon to the U.S. Senate seat in 1952 and he went from there. Their son Otis was supposed to carry on -- he surprised everyone by moving the Times toward the center and maybe a little left -- Nixon was furious with Otis for being scorched by cartoonist Paul Conrad, even supposedly demanding his income-tax records, true or not. The Chandlers pretty much walked away from the paper in the 1990s and sold it to the Chicago Tribune Company, which inflicted some real damage: round after round of budget slashings which saw a series of publishers and editors quit in disgust. The sole owner Patrick Soon-Shiong has at least put it under local ownership, and some new good writing talent has come, but like any other paper there have been new layoffs. It seems to be a more liberal paper than at any time in its history.
I grew up in the LA area in the 60s and 70s. I was not aware we had our own Hearst-like publishing family. Enjoyed reading the LA Times and their magazines over the years there, including while at UC Irvine. They had an Orange County edition. Loved having the LA Times to read while visiting my parents in the San Gabriel Valley. I think the LA Times may be better than the Chronicle now. I suppose many will say both are too liberal. To your point, we are going to a piano concert at Dolby Theater in Hollywood for entertainment in October. 2 LA area baseball teams (one good, one so-so but with Ohtani), 2 basketball teams, 2 football teams (though for a time had none), etc. I think Entertainment King is right but they have homeless/drug issues as bad, if not worse, than SF.
ReplyDeleteThe LA Times has gotten noticeably worse over the last few years, but it's still light-years ahead of the almost unreadable Chronicle. I subscribe to the Times because it has much better coverage of statewide news. I ended my Chronicle subscription several years ago. Got tired of giving money to a media outlet that's primarily focused on food and pushing a progressive agenda (I'm a left-leaning independent, but not nutty far-left.)
DeleteThe LA Times is little more than an editorial page for the warped woke agenda of the owners daughter. Complete garbage, and not a newspaper in any sense.
Delete@1:35 Agreed, the Times always come up with some off the wall BS from left field, should always fact check what they publish
DeleteMany years ago, LA also had some iconic television news anchors and field reporters.
ReplyDeleteLA, aka Tinseltown, is the Capitol of Movies, Records, and Theme Parks. Lots of interesting folks have been drawn to its stagelights.
ReplyDeleteYes, the Dodgers and their enablers destroyed a Latino community known as Chavez Ravine. Before that the Zoot Suit riots were perpetrated by a goon squad of cops and armed forces.
There was once a thriving rock and roll scene, and the classical music, and jazz offerings are top notch.
At one time the region produced a lot of our military’s aircraft. Not sure what is being made there anymore.
California IS the straw that stirs the drink. One in 8 Americans is in California. Californians, with our federal tax dollars, support many of those states that hate Californians. I hope we can get true representative government and get our fair share of the taxes we contribute.
LA, Eureka, Porterville, Brawley, Chico, Monterey, we may be all over the map, but we should all be proud Californians.
LA is still a fantastic place! And so is SF. Different vibes from both cities. But both are great.
ReplyDelete@6:51 Well, you have such a positive attitude, just like anywhere else don't go into the "negative" areas of the city(s), I've seen bad things happening now but go back 15 years ago it was much safer then, unbelievable how bad situations can manifest in a few years
Delete"LA Wasn't Always So Vacuous". The cities industry was based on illusion. It pandered to ego and glorified narcissism. Selective memory is indeed intoxicating. Born and raised in the Bay Area and will die here...I wouldn't have it any other way. Besides, you can't grow good sourdough bread in La La Land.
ReplyDeleteI've never lived there , but have always enjoyed my visits to the LA area. Even though I live in the SF Bay Area, I frequently listen to an LA-area talk radio station, KFI-640. I'll grant sometimes the conversation turns to entertainment-industry topics that don't seem to be particularly important; for example, how often does a putative actor need to audition to get a part?
ReplyDelete@1:11 We've always enjoyed driving to LA on HWY 5 and listening to all facets of music through different regions, great Hispanic music almost all the way, the closer you past middle CA good Country music, down in LA I noticed they have better pop, rock music stations, ah, those were the days, my friend
DeleteYou've gotta be talking about back in the day when Herb Caen called the place El Lay.
ReplyDeleteI L.A. would be nicer without the Hollywood sobs.
ReplyDeleteThe smarter hollywood ones moved or left the state, smarter ones...
DeleteThe Times was a very right-wing paper for decades; it was Norman and Dorothy Chandler (the latter of music-center pavilion fame) who boosted and supported Richard Nixon to the U.S. Senate seat in 1952 and he went from there. Their son Otis was supposed to carry on -- he surprised everyone by moving the Times toward the center and maybe a little left -- Nixon was furious with Otis for being scorched by cartoonist Paul Conrad, even supposedly demanding his income-tax records, true or not. The Chandlers pretty much walked away from the paper in the 1990s and sold it to the Chicago Tribune Company, which inflicted some real damage: round after round of budget slashings which saw a series of publishers and editors quit in disgust. The sole owner Patrick Soon-Shiong has at least put it under local ownership, and some new good writing talent has come, but like any other paper there have been new layoffs. It seems to be a more liberal paper than at any time in its history.
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