Point / Counter-Point

Point: "Rich, Carlos Ramirez is a perfectly fine sports anchor on NBC Sports Bay Area--the 49ers' pregame show would be so lame without him."

Counterpoint: "Jane, you ignorant slut! Do you honestly believe your own drivel? Ramirez is a weekly embarrassment and everyone at NBC and viewers alike know it. His latest shtick, super- accenting his name, is beyond pathetic."

Point: "Rich, why do you attack so many Bay Area women TV journalists, you're positively misogynistic!"

Counterpoint: "No Jane, quite the opposite, just people I deem as lousy or not that good. If they're man, woman, black, white, asian, hispanic, blue, purple, gay, straight, I don't discriminate. Anyone who knows me, knows I'm an equal opportunity shit disturber."

Point: "Rich, you constantly stress the negative--maybe if you were more positive and uplifting, you'd be more successful."

Counterpoint: "Jane, were I any more positive, I'd be the toilet attendant at the Shell station at the last exit before the west end of the Bay Bridge."

Point: "Rich, your constant attacks on Jan Wahl and Nikki Medoro are just so rude and bad-- you, Rich are just repugnant!"

Counterpoint: "Jane, you ignorant slut! Do you honestly ever even consider the facts? Wahl is just plain awful with self-serving drivel and Medoro thoroughly useless--like a bad dream gone worse, gimme a break!"

Point: "Rich, you're too nice to KRON, don't you know they suck!"

Counterpoint: "Jane, of course I know and had you read me over the years, I said so but they've improved. Substantially. They have good, solid, above-average anchors and their reporters are OK too, not great, but what's great today? Sure Jane, KRON reminds us they'll always be KRON but yeah, overall, they do a decent job and I'm all in for the most part."

Point: "Rich, if you keep riffing on Damon Bruce, I'm gonna kick your ass!

Counterpoint: "Really Jane, I might take you up on that! Damon was so good and edgy when he first started out but he's become such a lame, mild sausage, maybe having kids neutered his opinions; whatever the case, I can't listen to him, he's just plain boring."

Point: "Rich, maybe if you were nice to the Chronicle, they'd be nice to you."

Counterpoint: "Jane, you ignorant slut! The Chronicle is the worst high-school newspaper in the world. They're a joke now. No Herb Caen, no Art Hoppe, no decent sports page, just a drab of a paper and horrid SFGate too, which routinely lifts some of my stories."

Point: "The Bay Area media deserves better; your constant barbs do more harm than good, be an optimist!

Counterpoint: "Jane, I'm only doing my job, have you seen our radio and TV ? We're the shits; we have Fresno mildew reporters and anchors giving us the news, it's patheic, it's repulsive, it's god-awful, what can I say. Were I anything other than telling the truth, I'd be lying."

Point: "Rich, FP Santangelo is reallly cool on KNBR, again, you are so negative."

Counterpoint: "Jane, he's a cliche-driven, career.224 hitter who bombed in the field and also various bars in the Bay Area, ask the women he hit on. He's only on KNBR because they needed a body at night after Giants' games and Frank Paul volunteered, that's it, Jane."

Point: "Rich, lots of people love Check, Please on KQED, you're just not in tune."

Counterpoint: "Jane, lots of people like to read books while taking a #2, doesn't make it healthy."

Point: "Rich, making fun of Julie Haener is not condusive to your overall character. Julie has had a fine career at KTVU and you know it."

Counterpoint: "Jane, you ignorant slut! I've never said Julie was unworthy, I've simply said she had her time in the sun and now, she's just hanging on, you know, mailing it in and collecting checks. Have you seen KTVU's ratings? I rest my case."

Point: "Rich, KCBS is not that bad. It's a new world, they're trying their best, be real."

Counterpoint: "No Jane, you be real. They took a heritage station, Jenny (Seelig) and turned it into the shitter. They systematically crapped on a Bay Area radio institution and the results are in, it's a sliver of itself. And what you have left is an embarrassment. And someone needs to be accountable."