Monday, March 13, 2017

John Lund: The Excrement of 'Tolbert and Lund' on KNBR Sports Radio Show; A Total Disaster Adds Nothing To Program; Monday PM

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Tom Tolbert (l) with John Lund
 I haven't really talked about the "Tolbert and Lund" program in the PM on KNBR (3-7, M-F) I'll flip around the dial going from news and talk and back over to sports.

Frankly, the commercial avalanche on KNBR is obnoxious. Cumulus should be ashamed but they have no shame. They already sold out so why stop with ethics now? Almost 40 minutes of spots in an hour? Sort of like telling your remaining listeners, "fuck you guys!", and that's what they're doing.

I like Tom Tolbert. I think Tom is very gifted, very knowledgeable --he knows his sports and does a great job. Sometimes he gets a little too much inside baseball and his joke overload overwhelms but that's rare and you can allow a minor blip every now and then.


On the other hand, John Lund is a total disaster. A complete waste and useless morsel. It wasn't Tolbert's fault they placed this dimwit alongside --it was some Cumulus yutz in the SF cluster that thought it would be so brilliant to hire this cadaver --another genius move by the radio killers club first lieutenant.

Lund is terrible. First off when he talks he sounds a lot like Tolbert thereby he cancels out Tom. And Tolbert then has to reestablish himself and take focus because Lund's goofiness and aloof dick jokes overwhelm the program. More like, infest the show. They need to deodorize when Lund opens his mouth, again, he adds ZERO to the program.

Although I tired of Ray Ratto's eternal gloom and doom contrarian bullshit, at least Ratto was intelligent enough to defer to Tolbert and also know when to shut up. Lund is an imbecile who thinks he's Springsteen and he's not even the opening act.

So you have a sports-radio show besieged by endless commercials and a co-host who has diarrhea of the mouth and isn't funny nor useful. Tolbert has to do the heavy lifting because Lund is a waste of time and energy.

24 comments:

  1. First Lund had frosted blond tips..now its red? I'm getting a Bruce Jenner vibe.
    Nothing wrong..just sort of like that. Ehem.

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    1. That's actually pretty funny Stan. And who knows...?

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  2. There are definitely limits to the Daily Recommended Allowance of Ray Ratto, but I much preferred the ying/yang pairing he had with Tolbert.

    Ralph was ok, when he didn't step all over everyone else, but at least he still had the balls to call people out, including Tom Brady for turning his nose up at his hometown press. (Note to Brady Sr. -- your son can defend himself; nobody cares what you think)

    If I'm Tolbert, I'm either counting the days when my contract is up, so I can jump ship...

    ...or counting the dollars I'll ask for when contract renewal time arrives.

    As one of the two remaining KNBR personalities/hosts who aren't completely insufferable (I count Marty Lurie as the other), if he goes, so goes the station.

    Given his palpable annoyance today at the fact that a Giants preseason game would shunt them to 1050, I'm betting on the former option.

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    1. I'm sick to death of Martie Lurie. The only yappers I can stand on KNBR are Tolbert and Woodson.

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  3. I much prefer Tolbert with Ratto. Like you said, Lund just does not anything to add to the program. However, I rarely listen to KNBR because they spend way too much time in commercial break. And now that Giants baseball is back it will be unbearable. #GoAthletics

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    1. Ditto - I listen to sports talk to get some new insights. Ratto was the anti-Tolbert in a way, but you could tell they appreciated each other's points of view. When Tolbert stops joking around, he's very good analyzing and talking about all major sports. Lund brings nothing insightful to the party at all. It sounds like he's basically there to intro and exit from and to station breaks.

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  4. Don't believe anything he says. Don't think he has an original idea.When Tolbert isn't there he tries to imitate Tommy. Love Tommy but don't listen as often because of Lund.

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  5. Picture looks like Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy - where's my monocle?

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  6. What the hell is going on? I agree with Rich twice in one week? The end must be near.

    I actually thought Lund was almost tolerable with Papa on 95.7. And I really liked Tolbert with Ratto. Yes Ratto could get a bit tiresome at times but the two had a radio chemistry that was fun to listen to. Lund and Tolbert have NONE. Lund just seems awkward with Tolbert. This was a lose-lose for both stations

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  7. Screw KNBR and all of their commercials. Not even worth the effort to change channels every time they go into a commercial break at this point. Who sits through an hour of any of their programming?

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  8. Whereas Tolbert/Barbieri and Tolbert/Ratto were essentially complimentary pieces to each other --- Tolbert was DIFFERENT than Ralph or Ray, and there were dynamics at play, and sometimes conflict --- Lund is basically a lesser version of Tolbert. There's no conflict, and there's no reason to pay attention to Lund when Tolbert is there. Lund is invisible. And yeah, the ads .... yikes.

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    1. yes, like Rich indicated their voices are too similar. sounds like the conscious mind talking to the unconscious mind... like a guy talking to himself on air.

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  9. If Lund is failing it's not because he's bad. How do I know this? I heard him with Papa and he was great.

    Tom and Ratto weren't very good because they didn't work together. One guy talked, the other guy talked. No interaction at all, and it seems like Ratto doesn't even like sports. So they bring in Lund who has proven he can get something out of a co-host and yet nothing is happening. The answer?

    Maybe Tom needs to be doing this alone?

    Lund does a "show" while Tom sorta just does what he wants. Both work in their respective environments and it doesn't mean that either is bad, but just maybe they're not good together.

    I don't think the show is bad at all and I think Lund is doing what management would want him to do at any station: move the ship along. I just don't think Tom can break bad habits Cumulus let him grow into, and I like Tom.

    The issue is Tom isn't really a color guy like most athletes are supposed to be. He's practically the straight guy while Ralph Barbieri played the "crazy" one in what is a reversal of roles. Lund is supposed to setup the ducks for Tom to shoot, but Tom likes setting up his own ducks. It's an issue.

    Make no mistake though, Lund is good at what he does.

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    1. Tolbert and Ratto were like Batman and The Joker. Tobert and Lund are like Batman and Robin. It's more fun when Batman and The Joker interact.

      When they first stated doing radio together, I thought Tolbert and Ratto were great. Ratto can wear on you with the grumpy, old man schtick, but he sure beats Tolbert sidekicks Byrnes and Lund.

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  10. Lund is nothing more than the beneficiary of being paired with actual talent. He got lucky that he was eventually paired with Papa after 95.7 got tired of playing musical chairs with his co-host. Lund was also fortunate to be put up against KNBR's worst show, Fitz and Brooks. Since 95.7 began, the noon-3 block is the only show that hadn't been fucked with multiple times by former PD and current douche, Jason Barrett. Again, because Papa has fans and the KNBR option in that time slot is toxically atrocious.

    The idiots at KNBR seemed to think that taking Lund from 95.7 would hurt 95.7's highest rated show, not realizing that Papa was what drew listeners. The ratings for the noon-3 block on 95.7 have gone up since Lund's departure. KNBR even shifted Gar and Lar to 10-1 and cut an hour from Fitz and Brooks to counter program. But who gives a shit about noon-3? We all know drive time is where the money is so the jerkoffs at KNBR really screwed the pooch on this one. I have several sports fans as friends and they listen to Damon more now that Lund is ruining KNBR during afternoon drive.

    Unfortunately, Tolbert is so easy-going that he can get along with anyone. However, Tolbert should use his power at contract time and do Bay Area sports radio listeners a favor and have Lund banished to being an overnight board-op. No one wants to hear school yard dick jokes from a Shaggy look-a-like. If Lund is so fucking great, give him the Fitz and Brooks spot. I'd bet Lund's ratings would be even worse than F&B, by a mile.

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    1. "AnonymousMarch 14, 2017 at 11:45 AM
      ^^ Wrong."

      Wow, that's some penetrating specificity with your singular comment. Are you Donald Trump during a debate?

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    2. I'll jump in on this. Lund isn't successful solely because of Papa. Papa is rudderless and scattered even though he's funny. I bet Cumulus thought Lund would bring the same direction to Tolbert but the two aren't the same - as was previously mentioned.

      I listen to both stations and thought Lund and Papa were very good together but Tolbert and Lund not as good. No one said Lund is a #1 guy but that doesn't mean he's bad because he's not doing well with Tom (if that's true). Not like Cumulus programs good stations and Tom is some type of awesome broadcaster. He's merely good.

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    3. Right: spot on.

      Lund and Papa had great chemistry. Lund can be good when paired with the right person (ie Papa). They just played off each other really well. Sad to see that pairing go. I guess I'm in the minority but I don't hate the Tolbert/Lund combo. It's nowhere close to Papa/Lund, but if you are looking for commute sports talk, its better than listening to Damon Bruce's hyperbole and constant stream of hot air. The problem with Tolbert/Lund is there is very little contrast. Tom's irreverent humor worked well in contrast to Barbieri's self importance. Ratto, while he had his moments, is on an island. He would just take up too much air time to make his points. The back and forth with Tolbert was rare. He could bring a good moment to a screeching halt while trying to explain himself, even though his opinions were interesting.

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  11. @10:48 and @10:21 very well thought out comments. Very articulate. As a fan of this blog that is what I like to read. Not douche bags like Stan ..

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  12. On another KNBR subject, a listener commented this morning that Krueger and Patrick Connor would make a good pair after Radnich leaves/gets fired. TOTALLY AGREE. They would be a huge improvement over the two 6-10am nitwits. If there is 20 minutes per hour of real programming, then that is all Murphy (yeah, yeah, yeah) does. He repeats all his 6 am stoiries during the 7, 8 and 9 o'clock hours. He loves to report what he tweets out--as if anyone gives a rat's ass.

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  13. Always worrisome to agree with Rich. Lund is useless. Paired with anyone he'd be waste. He's not doing a show. He's doing an immature schtick that he thinks passes for a show. Lund must go.

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  14. Where is Matt Colsky (sp)?

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  15. Choosing to bring in Lund was a huge mistake. He's out of the Jim Rome school of sports casters, clones now littered dime a dozen like throughout the land. He might work out in De Moines but here, no way. Tolbert needs as a partner someone who has some intelligence. Ralph and Ray complimented him because they brought some passionate discourse to the show. And they were local people who were invested in the area, the teams, the history. That's what we as listeners appreciated.
    Lund has none of that, plus he's just plain off, there's something amiss with him, and it shows up any time he opens his mouth.

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