One of the many problems at KGO--and there's way too much--is the abundance of women. Women anchors, women reporters, women managing editors, (until recently). Just way too many women.Which means you have to get rid of the women. Not all mind you, just a majority.
The women at KGO have screwed up the formula, just not the format. The men screwed that up.
Look, I'm not a misogynist --but even a neutral observer agrees with me that there's way, way, way too many women at KGO. So, in that spirit, you have to begin eliminating them. It's risky but it's worth it. The less women, the less headaches. It makes sense.
I say, start gradually, and then go full gusto. The less women, the better. Maybe you don't agree? Whatever. You can argue with me but my mind's made up.
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ReplyDeleteNo woman, no cry.
ReplyDeleteExactly!
DeleteIt's not a false statement. Women have never done great in talk radio. Cumulus plan was to appeal to them. More like metheny's plan. Thing is, men do better than women in the talk format at appealing to them. There are reasons for this, but it's a problem much bigger than something the current radio companies are going to figure out.
ReplyDeletePlease don't list the 2-3 successful women in radio.that's not the point.
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DeleteTypical BS "Anony" 8:41. If women are not allowed to sit at the table, how can you criticize their abilities?
DeleteOne of the amusing traits of this blog is your misogyny.
ReplyDeleteI don't think he's wrong. In news I don't see it as an issue but in talk radio it has not worked well, and not for lack of trying.
Delete"Not for lack of trying" you assert? Really...Has there ever been a prime time female talk host in San Francisco? on a station that mattered? When? Where? Who?
DeleteNo. And there hasnt been one worthy either. I've heard you. You're not entertaining whatsoever. You're bitter, not funny, and your topics bore me. This doesn't mean you're not intelligent but quite frankly I don't know why KGO ever has you on even as a sub. Then again I'm sure Ronn prefers someone just like you.
DeleteRandy Rhodes ratings nationally have never been good btw. Maddow's worse. Miller has an awful insiders show, and the fabulous sports babe was a ratings disaster.
You aren't the arbiter of what is "worthy". You answered my question correctly. It is illegitimate to claim that San Francisco radio has given any woman a chance at a prime time show, ever
DeleteJan Black had a cool daytime show at KCBS and did great interviews, as does Ronn. It was a big success. Can you believe it? I thought women couldn't get ratings.
Does Laura Schlesenger count?
DeleteWhen that big mouth Christine Craft went after Julian Assange I realized how dumb she really is. Today, thanks to wikileaks and progressives the TPP deal was stopped in its tracks. Hell, even Doctor Michael Winer today was giving props to Pelosi and progressives while ridiculing Ted Cruz, Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, John Bohner and Scott Walker. Craft is a joke. A couple of weeks back when filling in for Pat Thurston we heard Craft doing multiple topics alas Gil Gross just BEGGING for callers. She's always been bad but this last time I heard her it was painful. Stick with the day job honey bunches.
DeleteAnon 6:39, no Dr.Schlessinger does not count, especially if you don't know how to spell her name.
DeleteThere was once a woman who hosted the top rated morning radio show in the SF market. It was an AC format, but this morning show was more talk than tunes. The host was meteoric and took her morning show, and it's station, to the number one slot. Of course, in the never ending misguided wisdom of all things managed by number crunchers, the station changed formats just as the ratings came in, and the entire on air staff was pink slipped. Some would say she made her mark by copying the format and style of a long time Bay Area icon who was still on the air at a competing station, and that may be true. But no one can say that a woman hosted radio show in San Francisco has never succeeded. She's gone now, never recapturing the spark, the audience or the ratings of her original SF show. Instead she imploded on air under the influence of drugs, alcohol and her own hubris. Darian O'Toole and her "ovaries with an attitude." She scared the $#it out of insecure men, both in radio and out in the real world, but she put the broad in broadcasting, and she had the numbers to back it up….
Doing an interview show does not make a talk host. If you think some local interview show is going to fly in 2015 then you are less clueless about programming than I even figured.
DeleteThe dynamics have changed. I'm not a fan of kgo programming, but I'll say Thurston is markedly better than you, and she's only marginally interesting.
There are fewer women in the medium, and few solo spoken word female entertainers. Why that is, I don't know. I'll guess it's because men don't care to hear women dictate life events. Call it chauvinism, but ratings are factual. Even lynee Samuels barely had an audience relative to men.
I didn't create the dynamics. They jusy exist.
Who accused you of creating anything? I didn't say that doing an interview show on a 50,000 watt legendary San Francisco station was doing a talk show. You assumed. My point was that Jan Black did a successful program and is female. I make no assertion that an interview program with a really skilled interviewer would or wouldn't succeed in the current setting. I'm not competing with anyone for anything at KGO. I've done fill there for a couple of decades and am always delighted to do so,even when lawyering full time in a different Northern California city.
DeleteAs for your testicle shrinking fear that "men don't care to hear women dictate live events", was your mommy unkind to you? You are going to shit green when Hillary Clinton is president, poor baby. As for your belief that those voices (male or female)on the radio are "dictating life events", are you always so paranoid? Think for yourself.
Christine: You went after Julian Assange? What's next, giving the Koch brothers some love?
DeleteToo much of anything is not a good thing, for as Dave Chappelle said to the prostitutes, "Run for your lives, bitches!!"
ReplyDeleteHooray to "Wayne" for choosing something beyond the Anonymous moniker to make your comments. Bravo, although, I'm guessing true your skin tone is not that of Mr. Brady or Mr. Chappelle, so for creativity you get a BIG zero dipped in a bucket of racist undertones.
DeleteDonnatella, what is racist in Wayne Brady's post?
DeleteOr do you like to scream "racism" and "sexism" at everything?
She doesn't need any real evidence. She hears voices in her head that tells her things.
DeleteThank you for not referring to the station as KG-HO
ReplyDeleteIs the women to men ratio in radio greater than 50 percent? If not, Rich, take your too many women at KGO theory and stuff it in your pipe.
ReplyDeleteIf it's matter of talent, there are just as many crappy male reporters, producers, managers in media who have fallen into their careers with little to NO experience just because they were in the right place at the right time. But if this post truly reflects your opinion of women in media, then you are misogynist!
AND, if you really believe there are too many broads in broadcasting, what's your opinion on other members of the media that don't look like the vintage KGO "circle seven" staffing from the Amburg era? Your post reads like something a fictional Ron Burgundy would come up with to "mansplain" why only boys should report the news and the girls should stay in the background, or better yet, at home.
Rich, you're stepping into the sexist ranks of scientist Sir Tim Hunt, radio consultant Keith Hill and the most recent member to join the He Man Women Haters club, New York Times columnist Kyle Smith who recently said women don't understand the movie Goodfellas.
Phylilis Diller started in radio, as did Rachel Maddow and Bette Midler (albeit in the case of Midler, she was an office staff worker in Hawaii, and not on air.) Would you want a world where these ladies were told "there are too many women" in the studio offices?
Oh well, it looks like there might be another man I can envision rolling around the back of the garbage truck, like that great scene from Goodfellas. Every time I hear Eric Clapton's Layla instrumental come over my radio, I am reminded of Scorcese's brilliant juxtaposition of Frenchy and Buddha's bodies tumbling out, visually choreographed to Clapton's sexy, lush musical interlude. These days, I'm seeing Hunt, Hill and Smith in my minds eye, discovered amongst the trash. Too bad I'm a woman that just doesn't understand I have no place discussing "boy flicks" or getting behind a microphone to report about what's going on in the world...
You know, Rich, telling one half of the world's population that they shouldn't be working in media is going to limit any potential dates you may desire with members of the opposite sex in your chosen field. Think about that the next time you lust after one of KRON's on air weather reporters…
I await the pending armchair commentary from most of your blog readers who are too chick$hit (or, perhaps, lack any any sense of creativity) to publish their comments under any nom de plume beyond "anonymous."
The women dented the newscar and got all the parking tickets. If you eliminate the women's restroom we could add another studio, mens smoking lounge or a game room.
DeleteMore Dickys!
Less Pussys!
Rachel Maddow??? are you kidding me?? have you seen the rating's????
DeleteRich isn't misogynistic, haven't you read his comments where he goes on and on about the physical characteristics of weather "talent"? Sometimes he even spends time scouring the internet for unflattering pictures too, and publishes them on his blog.
DeleteAnon 1:34pm, what women are you referring to? Anon 2:00 pm, are you talking about her television ratings or the numbers from her radio days? Either way, I'd bet Ms. Maddows numbers are better than those of Rush or Hannity, two hyperbolic college dropouts that can't make news unless they're fanning the flames of prejudice, jingoism and urine yellow journalism. Anon 2:32p, yes I have read Rich comments about his take on women in media and they are extremely misogynistic. I wouldn't expect you to understand, since I'm going out on a limb here and guessing you're a bit of a man child yourself, and that you spend much of your free time scouring the Internet for porn.
DeleteThe last cable ratings I recall, Rachel Maddow was reaching about 900,000 adults per week. I'm not sure how many Rush reaches. But as Milton Berle once said, "where's the other camera?"
DeleteJeez, I thought Rich was kidding.
ReplyDelete"why only boys should report the news and the girls should stay in the background, or better yet, at home."
ReplyDeleteHe's not saying that. I think he's saying that in an effort to right a previous problem, the pendulum has swung too far. Now there are simply too many women on that station. He's not saying that there shouldn't be any.
Oh Anon 11:44am, what a perfect time stamp for your outdated and generalized commentary about women in society. It's just so "dead." (Go search police codes if this reference is too hard for your tiny male pinhead to wrap around…"
DeleteDonnatella, hate men much?
DeleteBut it gets the housewives out of the house.....
ReplyDeleteAfter being charged up from watching the Oprah network and LMN movies all day long, where else will they have to spew 1 sides, biased, liberal points of view?
I would much rather listen to the few Women that are on Bay Area radio than any of the Male hosts. I listen a little to Ronn and Gil, but they are both marginal hosts. I even listen to Chip once in a while and he is less than marginal. As I live in Elk Grove I only receive 810 and 910. All the other Male hosts those station have are the most awful waste of air time I can imagine..
ReplyDeleteGod, you are a moron.
ReplyDeleteStart with the weekend housewives all charged up after a week of watching OWN
ReplyDeleteI bet their husbands are very happy. Good looking woman all,young,and bringing in income? Sounds 2015 and fine with me.
ReplyDeleteHey, it works for me! We take care of each other.
DeleteA picture is worth a thousand words. I guess KGO didn't receive the memo from the Government indicating that gender preference and affirmative action was a dramatic failure and was discontinued in this Country. Now they know!
ReplyDeleteI don't allow my family to engage in a conversation with women of the world.
ReplyDeleteI hope this is some Jonathan Swift "Modest Proposal"-style satire (even if badly done...).
ReplyDeleteRich could be up for the Nobel Prize
ReplyDeleteOh, Rich, I ain't biting on this one!
ReplyDeleteWay too obvious--Rich is having a silly day and decided to see how riled up he could make the women folk. Without really believing what he's claiming to believe.
That said, yeah, you ARE a misogynist but that's just fine. Your continued focus on women's physical attributes (or lack thereof) often turns off we readers...I frequently forget to look at this blog but I eventually come back to see what's happening in the radio world, because you, Rich, get a lot of scoops and that's what is compelling about your blog!
I agree with Donnatella--constantly PRACTICING misogyny in your written word no doubt is a huge negative on your private pursuit of happiness in the dating world. Think about that next time you decide to post some BS like today. You don't have to write every single day! Please save your talents for better, because you have have a flair for writing and we'd like to see more of it!
It did bring Christine out of the wordwork, LOL!
Deleteout of the "wordwork"? and next saturday on KGO
Delete...oh, sorry. A tree fell in the woods, and....never mind.
DeleteThe only women who do well in broadcasting are women with big racks on TV.
ReplyDeleteWomen failed in newspapers because of those rusty racks on seedy street corners.
Delete"The only women who do well in broadcasting are women with big racks on TV."
DeleteRegardless of the weather, when one of them comes on, there's a storm in my groin. Right ladies?
More like a cut-off low pressure system and just some spotty scattered showers.
DeleteTry again raddy.
You guys who are belittling women on the air are completely off base. Why do you think they call it "broad'-casting?
Delete"More like a cut-off low pressure system and just some spotty scattered showers."
DeletePretty good.
Nobel Scientist Tim Hunt: Female Scientists cause trouble for men in labs. They fall in love, and when you criticize them, they cry. Dr. Hunt was forced to resign from his position as a biochemist in England, after his statements caused a bit of a kerfullfle.
ReplyDeleteHe then claimed only to be joking. Some think the fact that Dr, Hunt was forced from his position serve to prove his point about the suffocating effects of Political Correctness.
His being forced out DOES prove the point about PC being chilling at best, and smothering/suffocating the more usual effect.
DeleteNew capo-de-grande-enchilada National News/Talk Director for Cumulus has been named. He's currently the PD of WMAL in Washington, DC. I haven't heard whether or not he's coming West with George Washington's axe headed for KGO radio.
ReplyDeleteHe's Bill Hess. He's staying east. And if air America is any indication of his talents, don't expect much. He's a paycheck guy.
Delete5:45 pm, your choice of words and syntax reminds me ever so of a middle aged, angst filled fellow who tells others (male and female) that he knows(and apparently only he knows) what makes talk radio successful. Given the opportunity to put his mouth where his claims are, he fails miserably and now thrashes out predictably at anyone who didn't appreciate his "talents". He accuses me of being " bitter", the old shibboleth hurled at uppity women always by men who have not the best luck with women. 9:28, here's a clue, if you don't like someone's style, do what I do. Don't listen. You seem to have your panties in a bunch over accused rapist, Julian Assange not being my favorite person. American opinion on the activities of releasing classified US documents and endangering our country is pretty divided. You should learn about that. As for TPP, I didn't talk about TPP on the radio, at all. Perhaps you are thinking of someone else. Now what possible benefits could TPP have for Americans?Without it, you might want to spend more time learning about Chinese currency, and less time listening to my every word.
ReplyDeleteWhat in the world are you talking about? Please don't lecture. Just because I find your show boring, and that of most women in talk is merely a fact and not an intended insult. There are no successful talk females because there aren't any good ones. Ratings decide what works. Programmers have been tinkering with the female anger for ages. I worked for TRN and we tried it and are still trying it. It is not paying dividends. You may dislike midde agef men but they ultimately decide what flies on talk radio. If you could appeal to them maybe you'd have a steady radio job.
DeleteWith all due respect to your puffed programming resume and your "tinkering with'the' female anger, I'm no novice at getting ratings, in either television or radio. Some of my best friends are middle-aged men, including my daily distance swim buddy. They are not all suffering from middle aged angst like you, you know. And as much as it must give you further indigestion, unlike you, I'm not hunting for a steady radio job.
DeleteWhy must Christine Craft attack a person's "manhood" every time she's criticized? It is very amusing to read Christine Craft go to bat for a convicted felon like Bernard Ward while at the same time attack a hero like Assange who even his "victims" DO NOT want prosecuted. Craft is such a dim wit that she supports TPP even though nobody knows what's in the deal. All we know is the scandalous excerpts leaked by the "evil" Assange whom she hates. Perhaps because he'd not find her attractive enough for a fling?
DeletePlease do tell us why you read this "drivel" and continually post comments, if you believe Rich to add little value?
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you take your advice and read his posts and then you can spare us your pontification.
Who are those ladies?
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