Bad enough the shrill and disingenuous behavior a lot of you display indicates a complete lack of professionalism.
You are, after all, reporters. There's a reason you chose to do news, bad enough the sports dept. is all awash in giddy Giants gear.
Most of that venom comes from a well-known TV guy in this town. He called to say that it looks and smells to high heaven that a bunch of news people in SF are wearing Giants' colors--almost going out of their way to put aside news gathering and inject a blatant boast of extreme out-of-placement behavior in the #6 market in the USA.
I agree.
I could go further and I will.
There's nothing wrong with a nod to the home team from the news people. But this ain't Boise. Not even Green Bay where they, (the news folks) have an excuse to go ga-ga over the Packers because there's nothing else to do in Green Bay other than watch the Packers, make babies, and eat cheese.
San Francisco, once again losing its TV news luster, has become a city of yahoos pretending to be reporters. The sports guys are bad enough with the "Go Giants" inertia--fine, there's a reason they call it the toy dept, but you others? Shameless. Despicable morons. Yes, you and your orange and black ties, your bombastic hideously out-of-place attire. You all look like rank amateurs. Please, at least have the dignity to do your damn job. That's why they pay you. If you want to cheer and show your colors, then at least have the professional tact to do so when your off the clock.
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Hmm, watch the Packers, make babies, and eat cheese. Sounds like a dream, I'm living in the wrong city!
ReplyDeletei find it really annoying that on kgo and knbr everyone has to act like they're the biggest giants fans in the world. like it's wrong to be a fan of the raiders, A's, San Jose sharks, or anyone else that's not part of the station product. sounds fake to me.
ReplyDeleteWhat will they be wearing next Rich, costumes on Halloween?
ReplyDeleteThey should act like grown ups and wear a red tie in support of Mitch until he wins he election!
How do you spell HOMER?
ReplyDeleteThe Chronicle sports writers.
Murph and Mac.
The hip and chic bay area? Not quite. More like a small midwestern town.
Sports columnists from a local paper are not expected to be neutral! That doesn't matter if they are from Podunk or New York City.
DeleteCriticizing Murph and Mac and Chronicle sports writers for supporting the local team is idiotic!
How do you spell DEFENSIVE GIANT FAN?
DeleteSee post at 2:36pm
How do you spell DOUCHEBAG?
DeleteSomeone who thinks it's extraordinarily clever to preface their lame posts with oh so witty "How do you spell."
If the Giants had been eliminated and the A's still playing they'd be wearing green and yellow. Would you have a problem with that Rich?
ReplyDeleteIf the average news anchor only talked about or promoted what they actually care about, they'd only be talking about themselves.
ReplyDeleteThey actually make the whole process tedious, while managing to trivialize their own responsibilities.
ReplyDeleteI believe the proper description is "jerk-off"
OMG! Best post ever.
ReplyDeleteWhy?
It seems like EVERY MEDIA MEMBER (news anchor, sports anchor, radio reporter, camera person, producer, etc.) falls over themselves when it comes to rooting for the Giants. It's sickening. And they'll also do the same for the Athletics, Warriors, 49ers, Raiders and Sharks.
There's no objectivity anymore. How can you call yourself a self-respecting journalist if you're rooting for the team you cover? Read what Hankie Shrillman writes in the Chronicle. You'd think he's on the PR payroll. I wonder if Al Saracevic tells him to write nice to sell newspapers so everyone can keep their jobs. But if the writing sucks, there are a plethora of other sources anyone with brains can turn to. KNBR has an ownership stake with the Giants -- which is wrong, but that's another story. So their objectivity with screening callers goes out the window.
Stories on fan reaction at bars and on the street is so...so what? Like what are the reporters supposed to get? Like what are people supposed to say? This is what drives ratings? This is what sells advertising? Brainless journalism.
Why aren't journalists digging DEEPER to find out why gas prices are at all time highs? What about PG&E trying to con its customers about gas pipe conditions. That's important stuff. Not whether or not Buster Posey has a hangnail.
Whatever happened to the Joe Friday, "Just the facts, ma'am," days?
You are seriously confused about the role of local sports writers and media people if you expect them to be neutral. This is not pure news and no once expects it to be.
DeleteYour understanding about journalism is distorted by Rich who himself knows nothing about journalism except to complain about whatever is popular at the moment.
hey Rich, I hope you take this in the best possible way - Fuck You!
ReplyDeleteI second that response.
DeleteI third the response. Rich is totally predictable, the old grouch who objects to whatever is currently popular and dwells endlessly on imaginary good old days.
DeleteBah Humbug Rich! Jeez, we deserve a bit of fun and Giants team fever is awesome. I applaud the good cheer of newspeople as long as they get their news reports out clearly and accurately. World Series! Hooray for the Bay Area and all the Giants fans everywhere.
DeletePoster at 11:24am
DeleteAre you Murph and Mac or just Paulie Mac?
Angry fans coming out of the woodwork.
Your use of foul lanuage speaks volumnes of your maturity level.
Let me guess your age; 15yrs or possibly 21yrs?
Who cares, it is a hometown team and not a debate about capital punishment or abortion. What is the harm?
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with 11:16am but also with 11:32. There is a place for hard and soft news. Ideally we'd get the hard news stories like PG&E and then the fluff; the problem is, news these days is much, much too soft, and nobody seems to care. I suppose the fluff attracts viewers and gets ratings and sells advertising but at what cost to the public?
ReplyDeleteI know you are a prickly one with your views, but seriously, this one is just overkill on the hate-o-meter.
ReplyDeleteIt's baseball and an awesome local story that people can "let their hair down" on and have some fun. Fan= fanatic zealot.
The media can go nuts on the debate and election. If they start saying "go giants" in the middle of those reports, i think THEN ...there's definitely an issue.
I have to agree with Anonymous ( 11:24 and 11:32). Who the hell gets his undies in a bunch over this? Jeez, we all love toys. And it makes our local folks look like they're part of the community. Civic pride, and all that. This is not something to get upset about
ReplyDeleteAgreed, Mr. Mathews.
DeletePeople who have nothing to complain about, complain about nothing.
I suppose that you'd prefer that they "stick to the script," and make sure that we don't miss any detail of the latest shooting situation.
Of course, if they did that, you'd bitch that they're not showing any community enthusiasm.
It's NEWS. It's GOOD news.
What a grump!
no paypal for you
ReplyDeleteHere's a solution to the whole damn thing...don't watch local TV news. It all sucks anyway. Don't listen to local radio. Ditto. The newspapers stink. Group journalism with most of the local garbage can liners defeats their purpose of existence. You can get the New York Times online.
ReplyDeleteJust ignore the local press. They aren't going anywhere and they'll continue to try to shove crap up everyone's ignorant arse. But you have a choice of where to go for your news and information.
Stop the insanity!
Agreed Rich. What annoys me is the constant stream of bandwagon fans they put on the newscast screaming as loud as they can. I'm willing to bet money 75% of them couldn't name the starting 2nd baseman on the 2010 championship team. Fyi been a Giants fan since '86.
ReplyDeleteOoh. Scared of you. Since 1986 only? Go wash your thongs.
DeleteHey! I have friends in Green Bay. They say there is a whole lot more to do there. They watch the snow pile up in the winter and watch the grass grow during the summer.
ReplyDelete+1 on no paypal. Usually your spot on, but this just looks like flame baiting.
ReplyDeleteRich can't seriously be suggesting that it's improper for the local newspaper columnists to root for the local team!
ReplyDeleteIf the great Herb Caen were alive, you think he wouldn't be rooting for the Giants? Of course he would. Rich's argument is ridiculous.
At least we dont have to hear the crappings of Ralphie B on the air this time.
ReplyDeleteWhats the latest on the lawsuit?
Rich defines himself by disapproving of whatever is popular. He's a one trick pony.
ReplyDeleteWhy is he in the position to define the proper way of following a local team. Just like he complained about the Petaluma Little League Team.
Just a cranky old grouch looking for attention by being different.
Hey, I work with a lot of these band-wagoneers. Yes, it's pretty revolting.
ReplyDeletePS, I think RL is a colossal idiot but he's right on this.
Gotta love it...no KNBR,,Ralpf Barf-oni around this time.
ReplyDeleteOh, sorry he's out drinking with Shawn Estes
Get ready. They will turn it up a notch now that the Gigantes are in the WS. My wish is Jackie Bennett appears in a skin tight orange and black dress showing her team spirit starting tomorrow!!!
ReplyDeleteShe did wear an orange and black skirt on Wednesday night. YES!
DeleteIn fairness, orange and black are very ugly colors, period.
ReplyDeleteOrange and black are the sentimental colors of Halloween and reminds us of autumn and pumpkins, and witches. What's not to like?
DeleteYes, and I hate Halloween for that reason. Orange is a loud color and it doesn't pair well with black.
DeleteI'm a 15 year graphic artist.
Oh and NOBODY got on the A's bandwagon when they won their division this year? Righhhttt.
ReplyDeleteAnd then you have the other side of the spectrum..Radnich. Who as sure as the sun rises says "They are the better team on paper" on EVERY Giant opponent. Raddy was giddy a few days ago...laughing pre game at Zito's St Louis era of 15.00..just on and on bubbly Mr. Loveable predicting the Giant's doom.
ReplyDeleteGARY? HAHAHAHAHAHAH! You dope!!!!..HAHAHAHAHAHA..HEE HEE HEEE...!!!
One more Gary..that KRON racist bit on the Chinese martial arts ?..Asian people know you did that story to insult them. You don't really give a damn about Chinese anything..you anti asain bigot.
This is the only blog that still publishes Stan's deranged rants!
DeleteSure Reggie..and Gary is your friend with every post you make.
DeleteOh,and you can find me regularly on at least a half dozen blogs. Everybody knows that. I guess your right wing letters of complaint Reg, get ignored!
I was already ramping down my viewing of Channel 2 due to the focus on violent stories. Now that they are the leading cheerleaders for the Giants, I'm watching very little KTVU. I get that Channel 2 is the Giants' station but after one game, Channel 2 devoted 39 minutes to the Giants. At the end, they encouraged viewers to come back in 30 minutes for the real news followed by oh, and by the way, a train is stuck in the transbay tube. Film at 10. Ridiculous. I prefer KPIX at 10pm anyway. because in thirty minutes, they have a far greater mix of stories. If Bill Martin ever leaves, I won't watch KTVU at all.
ReplyDeleteGood god man!
ReplyDeleteBlah blah blah.
The Giant's games are on channel 2 so they are making the most of it.
So what? Ya think they wouldn't be at the Colliseum if the A's had gone through?
Too bad this isn't Boise!
ReplyDeleteThe bay area needs the very thing that college towns have.
A sense of belonging and loyalty (ok you are not going to get THAT in the bayarea from fans) that is why those young knuckle heads you see after the game at the comcast booth yanking at their tee shirts (like we can't see or read unless they point to it ...duh).
For this one moment we are all happy, have something to root for and can temporarily forget how bad the bay area economy and crime rate is.
Smile a little Rich...your face won't crack if you do.
I'll admit to not being the biggest sports fan but throughout history people have always jumped on bandwagons (I find myself watching baseball these days). On that same track, people who are true fans of a team have always been annoyed by it. To expect the local media, especially those who profit from the success of particular teams not to become cheerleaders is somewhat naive, or at least intentionally ignorant.
ReplyDeleteThat said it is definitely annoying when you watch all of these people act as if they are now the biggest fans in the world. You're supposed to be "reporting news", not fanning the flames of excitement. There's nothing wrong with a reporter being jolly in front of a stadium, and somber in front of a hospital, reporting the news.
I guess in this day and age of the news having to turn a major profit they'll do everything they can to seem like the home of the sports fan, or the sympathetic neighbor at the scene of the crime.