Why are they keeping Baer if he is not good for business? I remember story of him assalting his wife. Thought he was owner. Since he isnt why keep him?
Rich, you're reading way to much into this. Larry Baer became the de-facto face of the Giants by attrition and remained the only recognizable front office representative. Buster Posey is where he is, because of one person. Bobby Evans. Buster learned the "business" as a student of Evans mentorship and was subsequently hire on by Posey to serve as an advisor along with Jeff Berry. A beloved and newly retired player just suddenly walks into the organization and demands the most important job in the franchise? Guidance was always there, Buster embraced the challenge and knows all to well, that success demands sacrifice and will continue to do so. The link between player/Management is as good as the equity earned on and off the field. It's time for change and a younger demographic is replacing those since the Giants Inaugural Opening Day 25 years ago! The Giants organization is in good hands, such a rich and storied franchise will continue to evolve and hopefully inspire a new and younger audience. Change is constant. Welcome it and Embrace it!
Bobby Evans? Are you serious? Evans always thought he was the smartest guy in the room. Those that think that never are. Take Brian Sabean -- always surrounded himself with smarter people. That's how he got to the top -- by learning from those smarter than him. Evans should have followed this model. Then, he may not have been fired.
Baer's act is tired. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just the result of time passing. I was personally done with him (after years of admiring his leadership) after he pushed his wife to the ground in public.
I always liked Larry Baer but let’s face it Buster Posey is a much better person to represent the Giants. He actually played the game and will have much more credibility with any free agents we choose to pursue.
I won’t go to a Giants game until Baer is gone. Assaulted his wife, treated Hank Greenwald like garbage and didn’t give back the South Bay territorial to the A’s.
Thanks to the A's, the Giants were saved from moving to Tampa. In return, the Giants screwed the A's. For that, I hope the Dodgers/Padres continue to dominate the NL West.
Let's remember the Giants current ownership bought the team and funded the ballpark under the premise that Santa Clara County was part of the Giants' territory. As for Hank Greenwald, I side with Larry Baer. Greenwald was always grumbling about minutia with the Giants and then goes petty scorched earth in a book. No way should Larry Baer welcome the Greenwald's back into the Giants family...that ship has long sailed.
10:11 What is also lost on A's fans with selective memories is that the legal framework surrounding the agreement was never clearly defined? When Bob Lurie approached Walter Hass, expressing his desire to move the Giants to San Jose, Haas agreed that in the best interest of baseball granted permission. There was no legal construct, that if the rights were not exercised, the option to rescind back to the A's ownership would come into play. It remained in Giants ownership's hands in perpetuity, as it was never contested. Summary: Was it a violation of "Goodwill" on behalf of the Giants? Yes. Were the A's and Haas negligent in not establishing clear contractual terms? Yes. Plenty of blame to go around. It still doesn't solve the current status of the franchise which is growing more bleak with each passing day In Sacramento.
@8:26 The Haas family were new to sports and were much too trustworthy of others. The territorial rights issue was an unexpected betrayal by the Giants, and when they voted in favor of the LV move, it was the ultimate stab in the back decision. May the Giants never win another World Series title.
Doubtful. If so, it would be an indictment of the organization. The position requires one to be pragmatic and diplomatic. I.e. Explaining to the ownership group (which he is part of) why or why not they should pursue or relinquish talent. These decisions are not arrived at purely by austerity. Accountability, trust or lack thereof is why organizations fail. Present your position, accept the decision. Universal acceptance or denial. He is beholding to many.
Why are they keeping Baer if he is not good for business? I remember story of him assalting his wife. Thought he was owner. Since he isnt why keep him?
ReplyDeleteRich, you're reading way to much into this. Larry Baer became the de-facto face of the Giants by attrition and remained the only recognizable front office representative. Buster Posey is where he is, because of one person. Bobby Evans. Buster learned the "business" as a student of Evans mentorship and was subsequently hire on by Posey to serve as an advisor along with Jeff Berry. A beloved and newly retired player just suddenly walks into the organization and demands the most important job in the franchise? Guidance was always there, Buster embraced the challenge and knows all to well, that success demands sacrifice and will continue to do so. The link between player/Management is as good as the equity earned on and off the field. It's time for change and a younger demographic is replacing those since the Giants Inaugural Opening Day 25 years ago! The Giants organization is in good hands, such a rich and storied franchise will continue to evolve and hopefully inspire a new and younger audience. Change is constant. Welcome it and Embrace it!
ReplyDeleteBobby Evans? Are you serious? Evans always thought he was the smartest guy in the room. Those that think that never are.
DeleteTake Brian Sabean -- always surrounded himself with smarter people. That's how he got to the top -- by learning from those smarter than him. Evans should have followed this model.
Then, he may not have been fired.
It's probably for the best that Baer is no longer the FACE of the team.
ReplyDeleteBaer's act is tired. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just the result of time passing. I was personally done with him (after years of admiring his leadership) after he pushed his wife to the ground in public.
DeleteI always liked Larry Baer but let’s face it Buster Posey is a much better person to represent the Giants. He actually played the game and will have much more credibility with any free agents we choose to pursue.
ReplyDeleteI won’t go to a Giants game until Baer is gone. Assaulted his wife, treated Hank Greenwald like garbage and didn’t give back the South Bay territorial to the A’s.
ReplyDeleteThanks to the A's, the Giants were saved from moving to Tampa. In return, the Giants screwed the A's. For that, I hope the Dodgers/Padres continue to dominate the NL West.
DeleteExactly. I will never root for the Giants because of this.
DeleteLet's remember the Giants current ownership bought the team and funded the ballpark under the premise that Santa Clara County was part of the Giants' territory. As for Hank Greenwald, I side with Larry Baer. Greenwald was always grumbling about minutia with the Giants and then goes petty scorched earth in a book. No way should Larry Baer welcome the Greenwald's back into the Giants family...that ship has long sailed.
Delete10:11 What is also lost on A's fans with selective memories is that the legal framework surrounding the agreement was never clearly defined? When Bob Lurie approached Walter Hass, expressing his desire to move the Giants to San Jose, Haas agreed that in the best interest of baseball granted permission. There was no legal construct, that if the rights were not exercised, the option to rescind back to the A's ownership would come into play. It remained in Giants ownership's hands in perpetuity, as it was never contested. Summary: Was it a violation of "Goodwill" on behalf of the Giants? Yes. Were the A's and Haas negligent in not establishing clear contractual terms? Yes. Plenty of blame to go around. It still doesn't solve the current status of the franchise which is growing more bleak with each passing day In Sacramento.
Delete@8:26 The Haas family were new to sports and were much too trustworthy of others. The territorial rights issue was an unexpected betrayal by the Giants, and when they voted in favor of the LV move, it was the ultimate stab in the back decision. May the Giants never win another World Series title.
DeleteBuster. is another "Yes" man who kisses the ring. The fans will turn on Buster, just you watch.
ReplyDeleteDoubtful. If so, it would be an indictment of the organization. The position requires one to be pragmatic and diplomatic. I.e. Explaining to the ownership group (which he is part of) why or why not they should pursue or relinquish talent. These decisions are not arrived at purely by austerity. Accountability, trust or lack thereof is why organizations fail. Present your position, accept the decision. Universal acceptance or denial. He is beholding to many.
DeleteNot sure how you came to that conclusion. Do you have examples of Buster being a "Yes" man?
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