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| Dr. Dean Edell |
Dr. Dean Edell : a north-coast hippie doctor who made it big.
I remember his debut on KGO in 1979. Nobody thought at the time that Dr. Dean would become so popular and a national hit, first on radio, then on TV. He had a pizazz that was insatiable and viewer friendly. It would catapult him to star status and he'd become one of the highest-paid KGO personalities.
Edell sold preventive medicine. He was the only doctor that told you not to see a doc all the time. It wasn't necessary, he preached. And the numbers wouldn't lie.
Dr. Dean resonated with listeners/viewers because he had a calming, reassuring persona. He would form a bond. Trust was his key listener component and it was that trust that made him so popular.
Edell made millions of dollars and was easily KGO-TV's #1 personality and a media maven.
Dr. Dean retired in 2010 --he did a guest shot with Ronn Owens in March.
I loved the Dr Dean Show, I remember he said vitiamins was a waste of $$, he along with Bob Brinker and Len Tillem were the only ones I listen too. I don't think I have listen to KGO since any of them left.
ReplyDeleteYea but wasn't he just an eye or foot doctor?
ReplyDeleteAnd who is more equipped to give out medical advice, Dr. Edell, or you? Yeah, I thought so....
DeleteAn eye doctor was telling everyone not to see the doctor regularly and the guy with a screename based on a porn star thinks that is sound medical advice?
DeleteYeah, sounds about right....
You shouldn't knock someone who is "just an eye doctor" for in order to be one, a M.D. is first completed prior to specializing. In fact, he earned his M.D. from Cornell University Medical School.
DeleteEye doctor.
ReplyDeleteAhh, Dr Dean! One of my favorite subjects on which to comment. One of the biggest slimeballs in media history. I remember when he first started, bragging about his early hippie days. Walking around naked, on public beaches!
ReplyDeleteThis beady-eyed snake bastard went from being a lewd pervert, to being an "advocate" for corporate interests. Preaching the "evils" of vitamins, organic foods and labeling, and anything else related to the "Vitamin and Health Food Industry." And acting as a skeptic, in regard to medical conditions that have mysterious etiologies.
Edell was aligned with Stephen Barrett, Wallace Sampson, and a cast of other dubious characters who fancied themselves as "Science-Based Skeptics." Influencers, who steered people toward "real medicine" (i.e. drugs, and/or any other treatments that made money for the conventional medical businesses they championed). It was pure business-related bullshit, under the guise of advice. Mehmet Oz pulls the same stunt, on the other end of the "medical" spectrum.
True to his hippiecrite form, Edell retired to a North Coast farm. Resuming his hippie lifestyle, and growing the organic produce that he used to mock!
lol...you forget your pound of saw palmetto and eucalyptus extract this morning?
Delete3:22, Note my comment on Oz. Or did you forget your "Dr. Dean" toy reading glasses? Remember those? Another example of what a fraud Edell was and is.
DeleteI stick by my objective comments, about the media Doctor with a history of exposing himself in public. Many of Pervert Dr. Edell's "opinions" were skewed/based primarily on his business alignments.
Why would one take Saw Palmetto, when they can take Flomax? Flomax (Tamsulosin Hydrochloride) is "real medicine." Side effects include: lightheadedness, an erection lasting more than 4 hours, abnormal ejaculation, decreased amount of semen, dizziness, drowsiness, weakness, chest pain, nausea, diarrhea, tooth problems, blurred vision, sleep problems, decreased interest in sex, cough, back pain, runny nose.
DeleteNot to worry, though. Your doctor can prescribe other drugs, to mask the side effects of this drug. And other drugs, to mask the symptoms of the drug that is masking the symptoms of the Flomax. And so on, and so on, and so on.... And for goodness sake, don't take any vitamin pills or other supplements. Unlike Flomax, they are not safe.
Remember: Dr. Dean and Big Pharma are your friends! LOL!
AnonymousJune 7, 2020 at 9:48 PM...
DeleteSounds like you are suffering from erectile dysfunction and a enlarged prostate...
Why not get yourself a order of Balance of Nature and/or all-natural Noxitril ("its like Viagra on steroids")
Both easily available to KGO listeners at only $70 per month.
Just dial 1-800-GrowBIG... Your partner will thank you!
(Warning, not recommended by Dr.Dean Edell)
Actually, I don't 11:04. Don't need any of the potions and poisons that the herbalist and pharmacists have to offer for those conditions.
DeleteSo that big prick Edell doesn't endorse those products that help men grow big? Perhaps in retirement, the 'ol sicko will manage to keep his own junk in his pants, unlike the times in his younger days when he exposed himself in public.
Most important quote in your topic..
ReplyDelete"Dr. Dean resonated with listeners/viewers because he had a calming, reassuring persona. He would form a bond. Trust was his key listener component and it was that trust that made him so popular."
Dean Edell told his listeners the truth...
When bogus "health" products, potions, vitamins, and pills were being promoted, he did not hesitate to give his listeners the straight scoop. He would always remind the audience that he did not have control of the advertisers played during his show.
Most important he never personally did the spots for such products.
Contrast that with the wall to wall promotion of current KGO radio products... Most notably Balance of Nature Fruits and Veggies.
A series of deliberately misleading testimonials suggesting all manner of cures and miracles (More energy, not sick for 3 years, hair growing faster, beefing up immune system to protect against the virus, dark spots disappearing, eyesight getting better)
--Flat out, Dr. Dean would have told the audience that any product claiming such was a fraud. He would have informed his audience that 6 tiny pills, with a combined weight of 4.8 grams of veggie powder, would in NO WAY ever equal "10 servings of fruits and veggies".
He would have told them that such a pill was IMPOSSIBLE and that simple 5th grade math, using the claims vs the product label facts, could easily prove the claims to be untruthful.
Dr. Edell was more concerned about the truth and his reputation than making a quick buck.
Now contrast that honesty with the current KGO promotions for Balance of Nature.
Some of the decisions about those ads come down from on high and Cumulus.
However certain afternoon talk show hosts have taken it upon themselves to personally do the spots and promote facts about Balance of Nature that are clearly provable false.
Boldly claiming that the 6 tiny pills (total weight 4.8 grams) are equal to 10 servings of fruits and veggies.
That this afternoon female host enthusiastically, as recently as last week, was still personally promoting this untruthful claim, calls into question everything we hear from her.
If she can knowingly tell listeners "facts" that are clearly false then what else can we think about everything else she says.
Why a host would personally and enthusiastically do such a spot is beyond me.
She can't be that ignorant about the truth.
I'm sure she can do 5th grade math, so why keep promoting the lie?
Read that quote about Dr. Edell again..
"Trust was his key listener component and it was that trust that made him so popular."
How can you trust a talk show host who is willing to personally promote a product with false claims?
KGO listeners are being duped into spending over $70 for a 30 day supply of pills. Seniors, naive listeners, and those fearing the pandemic are being mislead not only by the company, and by Cumulus, but by that "honest, sincere, and trustworthy" afternoon host.
The sooner she stops personally doing those spots, the sooner she can reclaim her outrage at stuff others in the news do.
Again, for those who say all products make excessive claims...
NO, not the bogus health claims, but the straight out provable false claims about the content of the product being equal to 10 servings of fruits and veggies, when simple math says, that at best the buyers are getting ONE serving, if that. In short they are promoting a lie.
Imagine picking up a dozen eggs, only to get home and find only ONE egg in the carton. That is Balance of Nature.
Well said. Yeah, I do not get the balance of nature crap. Big time trumper John Batchelor pushes it too.
DeleteGlad to see and know Dr Dean's alive and well.
ReplyDeleteFirst off 1:58 he only slammed organic stuff that wasn't truly organic. The bureaucrats have dumbed down the definition of "organic" so much almost anything can be labeled organic now a days.
ReplyDeleteOne of my favorite lines I ever heard him say and I think it is genius especially with the whackos that claim to be so smart now a days. "Just because you have the title of Doctor. That doesn't mean you are smart." Bravo Dr. Dean for that.
I disagree, Marc. I saw and heard Edell use derogatory tones, with regard to organic produce/products in general. On multiple occasions, on-air, stating that they are a "by-product of the old hippie culture, as is the Vitamin and Health Food Industry." He cited his fist-hand knowledge of that culture, given his past (and what turned out to be his future). He did this during his promotion of GMO products, and his endorsement of the GMOs supposed safety. Hence, my impression that Edell is a hypocrite.
DeleteI always understood his take on organic was that there was no health or safety benefit to it. He was not opposed to it, in general, he would just point out that the beneficial claims about it were inflated, if not, flat out false. Which is true.
DeleteIf he feels that the claims have been inflated, and/or downright fallacious, then isn't it odd that he has put an emphasis on that fact that his post-career farming is organic?! Why would he be avoiding the pesticides, herbicides, and/or GMOs, when growing his own food?
DeleteWhat a host says as a talk show host and what they advertise is 2 different things. Hugh Hewitt and other conservative hosts advertise for something called "Relief Factor", it is up to us the consumer to decide what benefits a product might have. Listener's are not being duped, these commercial's run on many stations. There are many commercials for all kinds of product that are dubious, vitamins, supplements, insurance, investment i.e. gold. That a host reads those commercials has no bearing on what they say on their show, as far as I'm concerned.
ReplyDeleteAssuming you are referring to the afternoon KGO host who is personally doing the ads for Balance of Nature.
DeleteYes, lots of products have dubious claims about what they will and won't do. However the spots that KGO afternoon host does go well beyond merely reading the normal exaggerations of "more energy" , "made me able to walk" "grew my hair" "I haven't been sick for two years while all about me have the flu or colds" etc etc.
NO...much of that is expected from such bogus products.
However what the afternoon host reads is a indisputable lie by the company that their 6 pill daily dose, at a total of 4.8 grams, is equal to "more than 10 servings of fruits and veggies. That is a provable lie. A grossly provable lie.
Their ads say they end up with 4.8 grams AFTER removing all the water which they say in their ads make up 85% of fruits and veggies. Making their source material ... the original fruits and veggies...only 32 grams.
So if their claims are true, they are only giving the customer a dehydrated powder that is derived from 32 grams of actual fruits and veggies (32 grams = 1.14 ounces).
Look anywhere online for "servings" of fruits and veggies, such as those mentioned on their label. Kale, broccoli, carrots, apples, blue berries, etc.
The single servings of any of those is more, most often far more, than 32 grams.
So they are giving customers at most, ONE serving of fruits and veggies, while the ads repeatedly say they are giving one of the following.
A.-- "more than 10 servings of fruits and veggies"
B.-- " 10 servings of fruits and veggies"
C.-- "ten plates of salad"
You can dispute the merits of what a serving will or will not do, but there is NO WAY that you can turn 1 serving into 10 servings. Just as if you tell a customer they are getting a dozen eggs, only to get home and find one egg in the carton"
The afternoon KGO host does not have the right to enthusiastically read outright lies and distortions.
That is quite a different distinction that reading ad copy that says...take these pills and you'll feel good, and will boost your immune system.
She, if she cared, could easily determine that the Balance of Nature product ads were a lie.. A outright lie to her listeners. A easily provable lie if you take their claims, their own words, and do a easy bit of 5th grade math.
The KGO listeners to her show are being cheated, fleeced, by this blatant lie.
Balance of Nature is counting on the listeners (the marks) not being able to read the actual label, match their claims of 85% water removed, and do the math.
IF you call their 800 number and ask about the discrepancy, you will find that their reps (health coaches) have no answer to the problem with their "10 servings" claim.
So does a host, who supposedly thinks highly of their audience, have the right to 'personally' promote a provable lie?
I think not. You won't see John Rothmann ever reading one of Balance of Natures ads. They may run on his show, but he won't personally read such a fraudulent message, essentially giving it his endorsement.
IF a host wants to have a reputation of honesty they won't sell out their audience so cheaply. That other big names might do so is no excuse.
Dr Savage promotes all kinds of supplements on his show. No better than Dr. Oz in that department
ReplyDeleteEdell promoted a highly dangerous drug, that was eventually and rightfully pulled by the FDA. This was after it was determined that the drug caused numerous deaths. Edell went on a rant, arguing that one favorable outcome negated any of the other cases. "First Do No Harm" was not something Edell was taking into consideration, on that matter, and it was another example of his dubious nature. If course, had that product been a supplement, hypocrite Edell would have been encouraging the victims to sue.
DeleteEdell also stated that cell phone usage did not present a significant distraction risk, while driving. His position on that issue has been debunked.
I think one point 1:58 may have been making was that Edell, who retired from KGO one year before the station's ugly purge, visiting Ronnnn made more sense than one would think. Edell emphasized trust, but the criticizing posts I'm reading are telling a different story, which sounds like the Parkinson's plagued leftover from KGO's glory years and his ongoing meaningless hour weekday afternoons.
ReplyDelete. . . and he was the whiniest dick at KGO. Fragile ego and always smelled bad.
ReplyDeleteWhy are you bringing the former KGO female talker that visits this website into the discussion?
DeleteEdell is a well-read eye doctor. It did get tedious when he would spend much of his time on his pet condition of the month. He must have talked about carpal tunnel for months and then he went onto mitral valve prolapse for what seemed like weeks.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I enjoyed his shows as much as anyone else on KGO at the time.
Oh, yes, Dr. Dean Edell. The man who recommended one night on his segment that one should have sex for a migraine. Obviously, he had never had a migraine. When you have a migraine you can't turn over in bed without feeling like your head is going to explode from the pain. You can't sit up, you can't lie down, you can't eat, you can't sleep. But, Dr. Dean Edell thinks you can have sex during a migraine. And, he thinks that will help. Dr. Dean Edell proved to me in that very moment that he was a complete and total quack.
ReplyDeleteGosh, am I the only one reading your vitriolic posts and thinking we've discovered the mot probable causation of your decades of suffering from migraines.
DeleteIf I carried that anger around with me year after year, I'm sure I'd have migraines as well.
BTW---
"Having sex may be the solution to curing a splitting headache. Researchers from the University of Munster in Germany have found that sexual activity was successful in treating migraines in 60 percent sufferers and in one-third of patients with cluster headaches." Mar 6, 2013
11:52.
DeleteHow have you determined that anonymous 4:59 has posted multiple entries in this thread? Several of the entries that are critical of Edell are mine, but 4:59 is not one of them. There is more than one person in this world who has seen through Edell's slimy act. BTW: I wish 4:59 the best, in his/her battle and road to recovery. The last things someone like that needs are snide and premature etiological-related remarks about their serious, excruciating, and debilitating condition.
Your reference to the 2013 German research is interesting. But, to borrow one of Dr. Dean's favorite words: I'm "skeptical." I remember another high-profile media doctor (who is an Internist), "Dr. Drew" Pinsky, stating (on multiple occasions, on his "Loveline" program) that sex is to be avoided without exception in cases where there is a serious cerebral vascular disorder. Pinsky cited multiple conditions in that classification, including migraines. The duration of nooky postponement, in those cases, is contingent upon: full examination(s) by a specialist in that area of medicine, true determination of the causative factor, and implementation of an indicated treatment regime.
I suffer from no "anger related" health maladies. And, in spite of all of the vitriol that he has spewed over the decades, Dr. Dean may not either. I will, however, continue to speak out with abject disgust against the Dr. Dean's of the world. Dishonest, deceitful, corrupt, high-profile characters who are unduly influential. And obscene, in many respects.
Dr. Dean and Len Tillem...Not many better...If...
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