THE DAY AFTER...MEDIA OBSERVATIONS...RANDOM THOUGHTS AND TAKES We're all in a state of shock. Wolf Blitzer, Frank Somerville, Rachel Maddow, ...you could look at their faces and see the effect of Tuesday Night.
Shock.
I skipped all around the dial, TV and radio with CNN and Fox News --a little MSNBC too--I wanted to view all the coverage.
I had little time for the local TV stations because they provided little to discuss and wisely, they pretty much stuck to the networks.
Cable was front and center. I'm still seeing Blitzer asking John King, again and again, "give him (Trump) Virginia, now what?" as if Wolf was trying to somehow, will, a "path" for Hillary's victory. Not so much surprising but a little bizarre, Wolf's stock is down today. Big surprise.
*For some reason KTVU thinks Ross Palombo is some political sage and uses him primetime on its 10 O'clock News. I can't believe that assignment--where's Joe Tuman? Better yet, again, WHY Palombo? He's got about as much political prowess and intellect as Wolf Blitzer's beard shavings.
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| Chip Franklin |
Franklin was simply awful interrupting comments, making inappropriate "jokes", and comporting himself like the fool he is/was. What genius at KGO OKed his hosting gig? Franklin also embarrassed his in-studio guests; while a caller mentioned the idea in the future of a Constitutional Convention (to tweak the Electoral system) Franklin said "that would be great; there'd be hookers and booze." Not funny. Not even real, and not the place. Franklin should be ashamed --a KGO source told me that both Rothmann and Thurston were more than annoyed and unnerved over Franklin's act.
*Weird audio moment on KCBS: Political reporter, Doug Sovern, asked by Stan Bunger about how awfully wrong the polls were --provided this curious response --"Why would anyone care what I think?" --Huh? Hey Doug, they (Bunger and others) obviously DO care because they wouldn't be asking you and you wouldn't be featured numerous times on the radio.
Observations:
*Can we just right now put the polling people and "data" out of business, like now!
*The female Ross Palombo: KTVU's insipidly awful, Jana Katsuyama, reporting live from Clinton Headquarters in the city. She makes Melissa Caen look like Clarissa Ward.
*Local reporters, 2016, who have no clue how to report on politics and have been thrust into said position. Stick to covering fires in Oakland and stay away from presidential elections.
*BAN these words and phrases immediately: "the narrative", "pivot", "act presidential" --Am I leaving anything out?
*Sports-talk radio shows should stick to sports too; the toy department can't suddenly evolve into elegant furnishings.
*Chris Matthews: what a putz. Which means he'll be a guest on Ronn's show this morning.
I was watching CNN last night and Blitzer and King were clearly panicking as they came to the realization that Trump (who I didn't vote for) might actually win.
ReplyDeleteToday is a great day for America!
DeleteThe grass is greener, the air is crisp, the sun is shining. We have a good future ahead!
DeleteBad day for the outlook on global warming. Before long the grass will be dead, the air will be thin and brown, the sun will feel too hot. But for the moment, it's a great day for rich white people and dopey Trump dittoheads.
Delete2:44 Did you really buy into that?
DeleteNot as smart as you think...
10:15,
DeleteThe global warming warnings have come from scientists at NASA. I do buy into the fact that their opinions on the subject are more qualified that Trump's.
Trump has said: "If you repeat something enough, people will believe you." Not the most honorable thing I've ever heard, but his monotonous cliches and canards play well to a crowd that is willing to be mislead by a character who is grossly inexperienced on a broad spectrum of political matters. The Donald has said that he will rely heavily on people who supposedly have some clue, however, which indicates that he won't be much more than a mouthy, showy puppet of a President. For the loyalists who buy into his contradictory "truthful hyperbole" theory, that glaring lack of qualification for his new job and willingness to delegate critical decision making processes is of no consequence.
Tuned in KGO on the car radio around 10:30p...Thurston was saying how she "came in and expected a Hillary win, but now I want to go home..."
ReplyDeleteOh what a sad tomato.
Also Ban: " Having a conversation"...
I read elsewhere that she was basically whining the whole night. Grab your big girl depends and accept the fact that your side lost.
DeleteBan: Exit Polls
DeleteI agree with Rich on his analysis of Chip, however I think after 7 or 8 p.m. it was just Pat and John and they stayed on to midnight and I listened most of the time
ReplyDeleteWhoever let Chip in the room was probably the same genius who sent him to Washington last week. lol!
ReplyDeleteI listened to KGO 6-10 hours a day for years, now almost never. Their current lineup of hosts is far and away the weakest I've heard in my lifetime, punctuated by irritating idiots like Jason Middleton. Even Bret Burkhart annoys these days, I assume at the direction of management. "Ronnnn Owens continues the conversation next! You're gonna want to hear his take!"
uhhhhhh...no thanks.
I will listen this afternoon though, an apoplectic Chip Franklin ranting and raving will be good for some lolz.
I heard "Trump wants to spend 30 trillion dollars for infrastructure(like walls)..like Eisenhower"..."Drug stocks are way up as Trump will put no caps on prices".."Food prices will go up as inflation kicks in"
ReplyDeleteAnd then Trump was congratulated by Putin.
Whew- Cant wait until Trump follows up on nuking ISIS.
My view on Hillary? She blew a big lead..and lost to lefty Obama. Eight years later she does the same damn thing to righty Trump.
Trump put his head on a platter for her and she took the high road... to oblivion..
We get it. I read it last night. "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!". We'll be fine.
DeleteFood prices will go up? You mean even more than they have under Obama? Have you been to a supermarket lately? Who can afford to eat a good steak anymore? I hear that complaint quite a bit. The people who can are the ones collecting that government cheese, who happen more often than not to be Democrats.
Radnich was eloquent this morning on KNBR with his analysis of the whole thing. Good man.
Delete@Stan...
DeleteI beg to differ with you, on CBS Evening News tonight 11/9, they reported that Voters broke Big for Trump in the Last week of Voting. You know the week before the FBI Director James Comey, & Rudy Giuliani inserted themselves into the Election 11 days out, & threw the Election to Trump.
Before Comey's Actions, Hillary had Momentum, and was Crushing Trump in Landslide Style...Then the FBI Entered, & stopped her "MO" Cold. The Republican Party Plays Dirty, they will Lie, Steal, Cheat, & Cut their Mama's Throat just to win!
Chip Franklin didn't destroy anything. He was on for the full duration of his program, not theirs. A little battlefield humor was not evil, and he's right about the difficulties in changing the Constitution. Thurston( the progressive communist), an ardent Hillary hater deserves this outcome. She seems surprised when John Rothmann points out to her what is actually in the Constitution. Rothmann was very effective in breaking down what CNN was telling us all.Now we return to normal talk radio, in which his pedantics become less valuable.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everything you just said.
DeleteThe country is divided ...Half the country want's free stuff...
DeleteAnd half the country want's to be grea,t and work hard.
America (well, what's left of it) will reap what it has sown.
ReplyDeleteI watched ABC and George Stephanopoulos and it was pretty good briefly saw KTVU and when Fox put Debbie Wasserman Schultz on I gagged and turned it back to ABC.Poor Nate Silver was there trying to explain poor guy.
ReplyDeleteThis morning on KTVU they had Joe Tuman on and he was as always excellent .
Why is it impossible to write summary of last night's broadcasts without hyperbolically insulting everyone involved?
ReplyDeleteIn certain cases a simple narrative would be sufficient.
One more fact. For the second time in three elections the majority of Americans voted Democrat..but a Republican became president.
ReplyDeleteHow's that for rigged elections?
No, that's not a fact. In the past 3 elections, 2008, 2012, and 2016 the Democrat received more votes. Only in 2016 did the Republican win.
Delete"The majority". The country is fucking split down the middle, give or take a few hundred thousand out of TENS OF MILLIONS. You take all the people the Dems have added to the voter rolls that really shouldn't be there the last 20 years (that's not directed at African Americans) and you have a far different result.
DeleteThe American people have spoken.
The electoral college mirrors the Senate and House and is supposed to represent the legislature, not the general populous. While the founding fathers were bold, creative, ingenious, they were also elitist, thus the electoral college. That the house and senate skewed towards the Republican majority, the electoral college reflected just what it's supposed to do.
DeleteIt's two of the last five, but I get your point. Bush and Trump both got the job while losing the popular vote.
DeleteI don't know why people are so shocked - except that they live in the liberal bubble of California and in particular the San Francisco Bay Area. I did not vote for Trump - but I can see why others did - once you get outside this area, you will see that the majority of this country thinks differently.
ReplyDeleteAnd a majority of the country is hurting and hurting bad! They just don't get it here. This state is in massive debt. Something is most likely on the way here too.
DeleteWe have a surplus. And those who are "hurting," need to get used to it. Trump only cared about their votes.
DeleteStupid (racist) idiots.
@1:47 The state is $400 billion in debt, or does the liberal Chronicle lie?
DeleteFebruary 2016-
SACRAMENTO — California has come a long way to dig itself out of budget deficits, but the state remains on shaky ground due to nearly $400 billion in unfunded liabilities and debt from public pensions, retiree health care and bonds, financial analysts say.
Don't let the facts get in the way of your bias.
Thought Thurston''s comment "there's a black armband around here somewhere" was hilarious.
ReplyDeleteIt's over there underneath her old resume.
DeleteRich, you forgot to add "so much for my predictions too" because you were about as wrong as everybody else. What happened to those 240 EVs Hillary had locked?
ReplyDeleteWe can also throw out "temperament."
ReplyDeleteI watched CNN, and Wolf did look like he was panicking, but I think it was more disbelief. I was in disbelief too, and I voted for Trump.
CNN and ABC were the best. Fox News and CBS terrible. I am a Republican who voted for Gary Johnson as I couldn't stand the thought of either Trump or Clinton. Expected Clinton to win, like everyone. I am enjoying the Bay Area meltdown regarding the results.
ReplyDeleteFranklin is in love with himself. He'd sell his mother if he could on Kgo. How many commercials does he do? He's a bore. Kgo sucks. What he hell happened?
ReplyDeleteHas Johnson found Aleppo yet?
DeleteThis would be a good time to have another Green 960 all liberal talk radio station. Plenty to talk and goof on when Trump and the GOP try to run the country.
ReplyDeleteOf the three major cable news networks CCN was tops. MSNBC's Brian Williams made more mistakes than Sal at the start of the program. FOX was dead. KPIX with the CBS Network fill ins did well.
ReplyDeleteyeah, collecting ''government cheese'' , but still cant afford housing. no poor person is collecting any ''government cheese'' worth anything. welfare checks are WORTHLESS. your ''money'' is WORTHLESS. you as a racist American are less than WORTHLESS...last buit not least , TRUMP is already on the way out.NOTHING is going to ''get better'' for racist ''americans''. anyway , also saw willie mays play at the ' stick in 1960'S.
ReplyDeleteI tuned in ABC most of the evening and CBS. Flipping to cable was same-old. Pollsters and pundits were big losers last night along with HRC.
ReplyDeleteFranklin didn't "destroy" Pat Thurston's and John Rothmann's election night program per say. But he did make it unlistenable while he was there. A radio ear-sore. But when he left the program became very good. With just Pat and John and their invited guests, very good indeed. It was pretty easy for a lister like me to just switch over to NPR while Franklin was still there, and switch when he departed the studio. Not much of a problem for the listener to adjust to. And NPR coverage was pretty good too.
ReplyDeleteAlways like your picture of Chip Franklin. He looks mad as in insane mad, not angry mad.
ReplyDeleteHow was it the LA Times poll had it right?
ReplyDeleteThe law of averages...they are bound to be right once in a decade.
DeleteThe LA Times/USC poll is unusual in that it keeps polling the same people. So it saw the final upswing in support for Trump within the same group of people it had been watching all along, not a newly sampled group.
DeleteAlso let me use my wisest decades of political watching...
ReplyDeleteThe EB Times did the usual "Lets give him a chance," blah,blah,blah,editorial.
Do you know what happens years later when all hell has broken loose? Idiots like that then write "The signs were there early,but nobody acted on it"...YES!,the same,let him get a running start crowd then later whine "Why didn't anybody stand up to him in the start?"...!
Mark my word.
One more important mention. I was talking to another guy my age- we couldn't remember another time when after a president was elected...mobs hit the streets in protest the same day. Not even for Nixon.
ReplyDeleteThey should be protesting the DNC. After Hillary was beaten by a no-named Obama in 2008, you think they would have learned a lesson...Hillary is not well liked. Not the DNC, they have shit for brains.
DeleteEight years later, here they go again, Hillary is running again, this time for POTUS and lost again! She has once again suffered one of the most embarrassing political defeats in American history.
The fucking morons who run the DNC are right now thinking Hillary will have a better chance in the 2020 presidential election!!
Don't blame Trump, blame the fucking morons who run the DNC!! Hillary is not well liked and the DNC will never figure it out.
Good job DNC, you just handed the Presidency to Trump, what a bunch of brain dead morons!!
Negative, sir. Neither Bill nor Hillary will be a part of the Democratic party lineup going forward. She's a two time loser.
DeleteYes, the DNC is responsible for this. When proof was discovered of DWS helping Hillary steal the nomination, that was the beginning of the end. When the wikileaks stuff dropped with all that party corruption stuff in it, that WAS the end. The race never felt the same afterward.
It will be a number of years before the DNC can divorce itself financially from the Clintons. Yes...in 2020 they're already talking about running Sanders or Warren but what does it matter? Neither one of them could ever carry Ohio and Florida and the Supreme Court will have been remade by then. Trump will have had an entire term to implement his agenda. I don't expect him to serve more than one term due to his age. Pence will take over and serve two terms. I like Mike.
The clowns at the sports bleeder were all in tears after the election. A bunch of jock sniffers who work 4 hours a day telling people who work 2 jobs how sad they are..
ReplyDeletethey are pathetic and actually were exposed as the babies they really are..
I know I've said plenty,but I'm getting that sickening feeling in my stomach at a Trump presidency.
ReplyDeleteI got that same feeling when George W. was elected,when Jed hired Singletary and when the Raiders said Dennis Allen will be the coach for the next five years. All hit me right off the bat in the gut.
I still feel sickened to this minute..
Here's another one. Trumps 10 year old who never smiles and just stares with the pouty look on his face? Is that Damien of the Omen?
ReplyDeleteKids of public figures who never smile are scary....