All the networks and cable outlets are planning non-stop coverage direct from Dealey Plaza.
A note:
While CBS replays the historical Cronkite footage announcing that the President had died, it has not aired Dan Rather's account who was there on the scene.
Of course Rather sued CBS but seriously...
*KCBS aired accounts of its on-air program that fateful Friday morning. Somber and interesting at the same time.
Seems to be a pretty serious grudge going on between CBS and Rather.
ReplyDeleteRather is completely a non-person over there. All traces of him have been removed, like someone in Soviet Russian written out of all the books after the politburo decides one day they don't like him anymore.
DeleteWhile he was a loose screw, there are plenty of far looser screws on the right who are still with honor. The right has no qualms with the demonstratively-false statements of Palin, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Stossel, et al. The demand for fact-checking is very selective.
Thankfully Dan Rather is gone.
DeleteInstead of retiring with grace and dignity, Dan Rather chose to leave CBS like petulant child kicking and screaming and the world is a better place without him.
A true national tragedy. Thankfully in those simpler times, in the aftermath, lapel pins weren't standard-issue, God Bless America wasn't shoved down our throats at baseball games, we didn't lose our civil rights, we didn't vilify every short, average-looking white guy, and the drumbeat to 2 bankrupting wars was nowhere to be heard.
ReplyDeleteThe good old days.
Ah yes, the good old days when our government and the Mafia teamed up to launch an invasion and attempted coup d'état of a neighboring country. Not to mention one mistake away on the blockade from starting a global nuclear war.
DeleteThe good old days.
Sad day, I remember it as if it was yesterday. I was a teen ager in my native Denmark, we re-acted pretty much like most Americans. Everything stopped, TV stopped it's regular programming, and for most of that week-end we were glued to the television. I did go out with friends that Saturday to a Jazz Club, but even there the mood was fairly somber, and my friends and I talked a lot about how we felt. chocked, sad, wondering what would come next. The next few days I my girl friend and I discussed every detail, Jackie's suit, her frozen face, etc. Before Jackie became known in Europe, our image of American women was glamorous movie stars, or someone like Mamie Eisenhower (I'm sure she was a very nice lady, but hardly a fashion icon. President Kennedy was very well like in my country, my Dad who was very political astute especially approved of his handling of the Cuban Missile crisis, and contrary to what many Americans believed, we also had a positive attitude towards Americans in general, that changed as in the years to come, as the Vietnam war became more and more unpopular. By that time I was in the US living on the East Coast.
ReplyDeleteI am so sick of all things Kennedy. JFK was the most overrated president of the last century, and no one but aging baby boomers gives a rat's ass about the anniversary. Trying my best to avoid all the Kennedy crap today, but so far unsuccessful. I dream of the day when all the Kennedy documentaries and other Kennedy hype goes on a special Kennedy Channel which I can then block.
ReplyDeleteI'm FAR from an aging baby boomer; I'm only 28, but I've been watching the documentaries and learning more about this tragic day. Whether you agreed with Kennedy's politics or not, people will always be interested in watching movies and documentaries about the assassination of a sitting U.S. President.
DeleteWhat a closed minded attitude, this is part of America's history, anytime a president is murdered it is a national tragedy, as it was when Lincoln was shot. Obviously you don't care about the history of your country. I do, and I wasn't even born in this country, I wrote the blog at 9:14. I was born in Denmark and didn't move here until 1967 when I was 22.
DeleteAnother bored millenial. Here, take your "smart" phone and go play angry birds in your parents' basement.
DeleteBy Kennedy, you mean Reagan, right? I laughed the day that piece of shit died and if I'm ever in Simi Valley, I'll piss on his grave.
DeleteSo you were reading this post...why?
DeleteOverrated? Go back to your little Republican cubby hole.
DeleteJust because the Kennedy assassination was the single event which changed the direction of American politics and history (think Viet Nam, Watergate, etc.), the result of which is still being felt today, why should you care, right? After all, since it's not on your Facebook timeline or Twitter feed, it's irrelevant ancient history, right?
DeleteGuess what. Your ignorance is showing.
I take it you voted for Nixon in '60?
DeleteAnd I dream of a day when cynics like you are a mere hiccup in the population. Perhaps you weren't alive when the course of modern history abruptly changed course. Perhaps you don't give a rat's ass about what has gone into the making of the fabric of your country. Perhaps you just compulsively react negatively to any event that grips the populace at large because you're too cool. Perhaps you lack any soul. Regardless, what a shame you are so disconnected and passionless. Pathetic.
DeleteA decorated war hero, one of the youngest Presidents ever, stared the Russians down in the Cuban Missile crisis, rallied the nation and the world with memorable oratory, "Ask not what your country can do for you"; "I am a Berliner"... And you have the audacity to call him "overrated"? You are a complete idiot....
DeleteLHO shot the wrong Kennedy. If he'd gone after Teddy this nation would be better off, the Kennedy name wouldn't have been disgraced, Mary Jo would be alive, hundreds of women would've been spared degrading, pounds of coke and boxcars of booze would've gone to the less fortunate, and the position of senator would be a bit less tarnished.
ReplyDeleteI'm always amazed that Rich publishes such inflammatory comments. What does this comment contribute to the discussion except perhaps to illustrate the low level of conservative thought? You might think that on the anniversary of the assassination of a beloved US president that there might be a modicum of restraint. Guess not.
DeleteTo what "discussion" do you refer? The discussion about how great JFK was, or how he would've kept us out of Vietnam, or spared us from Nixon? Or was it some other discussion going on only in your head?
DeleteThis is a blog, not a place of reverence. You may not like my comment, but there are truths within it. The Kennedy family name, even the legacy of JFK's presidency and the promise of RFK's candidacy, have been negatively affected by the antics of their spoiled, bloated, and hypocritical brother.
You may consider my comment "low level" or "conservative," but you offered nothing to support your conclusion. Ted Kennedy was despised for his behavior by a great many high level people and just as many liberals.
At some point in life you became convinced you knew how to think. You were wrong. You only feel.
Interesting how adella doesn't leave a scornful comment for 11/22 10:54.
DeleteThe Lib's playbook: Manners and good taste are situational, censor thoughts you disagree with, substitute "we" or "our" for "your" opinion, and when all else fails....outlaw freedoms.
dear 9:52, in your own words, can you tell us precisely what a baby boomer actually is? without googling it? I doubt it.
ReplyDeleteThat asked, to have utterly no interest in history and the accuracy of history, indicates that you have an incurious, dull mind.
Thank you Christine, he/she is a mindless idiot, as I wrote in my two blogs at 9:14 and 10:18, history is important. I like the way you put that ignorant little twit in his place.
DeleteThis is my third blog, I wrote the blogs at 9:14 and 10:18, and as stated I was not born in the US, I came here in 1967 when I was 22, as an outsider there is one thing I have learned about Americans, they are basically very optimistic and they like and related to people who are th, like Kennedy and Reagan, I like and admired they former, but not the later, however I lure of both men, although their politics was very different, both brought out the optimistic forwarding looking trait of most Americans, which I think is the most endearing quality that Americans have. Too bad so much of it is being lost in the partisan debate taking place today, As far as I can observe the US have become a nation divided against itself, (not my original observation, but an observation of Gene Burns) and are more concerned about taking a stand, being it tea party, republican or democrat, than being concerned about what is best for the country as a whole.
DeleteGlenn Beck Goes Off The Deep End and Claims JFK Would Be a Tea Party Radical.
ReplyDeleteThese RightWing Nuts are absolutely crazy!
And they want the White House back?
http://mediamatters.org/embed/static/clips/2013/11/22/33013/beck-20131122-jfk
A mediamatters.org reader. Left wing propaganda. Gotta love it. Democrap sheep.
DeleteOh my, 7:20...
DeleteYou confuse Propaganda with Truth.
Here is Glen Beck speaking on John F. Kennedy,
being quoted verbatim and you call that Propaganda?
Dan Rather's reports won't be missed.
ReplyDeleteThe Kennedys? Meh.
ReplyDeleteYou couldn't find a decent role model in the whole bunch. Teddy was the biggest disappointment...he lived.
Congratulations. The pinnacle of your literary career here on Rich Lieberman's forum. I bet your ma and pa and the folks back home are real proud of you and your accomplishments.
DeleteI remember it really killed the market for convertibles in the Dallas Metroplex area
ReplyDeleteDid you hear Limbaugh today?
ReplyDeleteBizarrely equating the Filibuster to that:
LIMBAUGH: Let's forget the Senate for a minute. Let's say, let's take 10 people in a room and they're a group. And the room is made up of six men and four women. OK? The group has a rule that the men cannot rape the women. The group also has a rule that says any rule that will be changed must require six votes, of the 10, to change the rule. Every now and then, some lunatic in the group proposes to change the rule to allow women to be raped. But they never were able to get six votes for it. There were always the four women voting against it and they always found two guys.Well, the guy that kept proposing that women be raped finally got tired of it, and he was in the majority and he was one that [said], 'You know what? We're going to change the rule. Now all we need is five." And well, 'you can't do that.' 'Yes we are. We're the majority. We're changing the rule.' And then they vote. Can the women be raped? Well, all it would take then is half of the room. You can change the rule to say three. You can change the rule to say three people want it, it's going to happen. There's no rule. When the majority can change the rules there aren't any.
These Pubs...they're cracking-up!
Hey look the mediamatters.org reader from earlier. Liberalism is a mental disorder.....
DeleteI see dumb people.
@AnonymousNovember 22, 2013 at 9:52 AM
ReplyDeleteYou are in the minority...
#2:15 wrote:
Delete"You are in the minority..."
So, you're saying The TeaParty types are the majority?
"Aging Baby Boomers"...really? My mother is in her late 70's, hardly a "boomer"...but an Irish Catholic in an era when WASPY fear monger types thought a Catholic President would take orders from the Pope...sound familiar to today and what folks say of BHO?
ReplyDeleteKennedy was hardly overrated...but much promise that was never tapped. He began the governments push for civil rights (after witnessing what people like MLK and the Freedom Riders were experiencing)...later fought for and won by LBJ. Cuban Missile Crisis was extremely critical...and outweighs the myth of Reagan and the Cold War (The USSR was declining already and only a matter of time before it crumbled..Reagan just was lucky to be President during that time) and Bush and the war(s) in the Middle East. Kennedy flexed US Military power without using it. Bay of Pigs was Kennedy's low point and his biggest failing but his record otherwise is amazing given he was in office only 1000 days.
Make you a deal...if I don't have to hear anymore about Reagan and his trumped record coming from the Right Wing Slurp Machine who really don't portray accurately his record (Reagan wasn't a bad man, but talk about overrated President) then those of us who think well of Kennedy will stand down.
We realize the Right needs a hero...well you will always have Lincoln.
That's very touching, you must have been very close with jfk.
DeletePlease accept my condolences.
Wait till they discover that Lincoln was never a Christian.
DeleteMyth of Reagan and the Cold War? I didn't even vote for Reagan, but I have to give credit where credit is due. The situation with the USSR was still tense and dangerous in the '80s, and Reagan handled it quite well.
DeleteI've never seen trained monkeys react so predictably. 1, 5, 10, 25, 50 and 100 year anniversaries. Predictable coverage. No thinking outside the box. No investigative reporting if it doesn't fit in the square box. It's no wonder American's trust their news from the blond bimbo on Facebook who believed what she heard from an email that originated in Nigeria. The other half gets their news from Hannity, Limbaugh, and Al Sharpton. Sad.
ReplyDeleteMy takeaway from today: Jackie O. was so f'able. They don't make em like that anymore.
ReplyDeleteThey must've made a lot of them like that back then, because her husband sure kept finding them.
DeleteJFK vs REAGAN...via Bill Maher:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4xGRTbYkkI
Well I'm a boomer and I'm sick of it. Fifty years and an entire industry built up around conspiracy theories. People like Oliver Stone making lots of money peddling that crap. Who cares. How about if we stop flailing about acting like a nation of victims and move on? Lets get something done. Fix Obamacare. Put some of these "at risk" guys to work fixing roads and building high speed trains. Show the young men how to act real men instead of pampered mama's boys. We don't need any more Adam Lanza's. Give them some decent male role models like Jack Kennedy instead of gay icons everywhere. Yeah, Jack was a horndog and the women loved him for it. They still do.
ReplyDeleteI am so done with the handwringing phony behavior from people who want birth control equipment made readily available to middle school girls, without their parents knowledge or consent. All this fake piety over an elaborate social myth Jackie O dreamed up with her sister Lee Radzwill while sunning herself on Onassis' Summer Yacht. It was a dream presidency almost everyone wished to believe in, so naturally all that red meat was whiffed down by the dem public. Funny how Obama 'didn't have time' to attend the Gettysburg Address Commemoration last week, being 'so busy' writing code for Ocare no doubt, but the Kennedy Devotions, he's all in, cause the cameras will be rollin!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 6:21,
DeleteWow, you don't condone birth control made readily available to teenage girls? Now, that's a very close-minded attitude. Hopefully, you're actively contributing to the creation of new national orphanages...because with that attitude, they will be in great demand for unwanted babies created by ignorance.
One interesting theory is:
We're all riding in the same Bus. Yet, Liberals seem to have window seats and are more apt to see what's coming-up-around-the-bend.
Sadly, Conservatives, all huddled-up in the middle of the Bus, rely only on FOX and Extreme RightWing Radio to inform them of what to think, anticipate and how to react.
“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.” -JFK
DeleteToo late 12:48. That used to be the definition of liberal, back in the Hubert Humphrey days, when democrat standard bearers acted like decent human beings. Not anymore. Nowadays the tag Liberal means someone who provides silent passive support to cable tv haters like Martin Bashir, who made horrendous remarks on the air about Sarah Palin. The Liberals of today say nothing in your defense if you are not 100% behind all their party bullet points. If you even think of disagreeing with the violent misogyny of highly paid cable haters like Martin Bashir, you better just keep your mouth shut before they come after you. Now, doesn't that sound like what a gang would do, or maybe the Taliban? I think it does. I'm SO, so glad not to call myself one of those people anymore.
DeleteHere is where Dan Rather is interviewing an employee of Jack Ruby's nightclub and is astonished when the employee said he saw Oswald in the club! The Dan Rather starts at about 12 minutes. Rather literally does not know what to do after hearing Oswald was in the club, who it turns out later on, was also seen there numerous times with Ruby by various other employees. Oswald really was "the patsy".
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z04rb-eHVE0
And below the live coverage of Oswald being shot.... the first murder broadcast live over television
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7699vgmlNJ4&list=PL0O5WNzrZqIMRSDT19pXjBuGLcXKqS-3r&index=22
6:21....Perhaps you've never heard of the Bouviers? History and genealogy are more important and complicated than your brain can handle, apparently. Analogies are important also, yours are just so twisted and inept,to wit:"red meat was whiffed".
ReplyDeleteYou probably think Lincoln was a big bible thumping christian who included "god" in all he did. You'd be wrong. History again, so troublesome..yes?
As for "birth control equipment"(what the hell is that), a female aCtually owns her own body. It must drive you nuts.
Christine, put those knitting needles down now! You are weaving loose and flimsy garments made of lies, innuendo and projection. It is unfortunate that knowing Lincoln worshiped The Lord in the privacy of his home troubles you so. In reference to Birth Control Equipment, I think #6.21 was talking about those do it yourself abortifacients, like RU486 well known to be dangerous to the woman.
ReplyDeleteSo you know the Lincoln "worshipped the Lord in the privacy of his home"? Where did you divine that ? I'll have all the scholarly information specifically about Lincoln and Christianity tomorrow on the Karel show...see Karel's site for times and stations.
ReplyDeletechildbirth is infinitely more dangerous than RU 486, and most acts of human conception are aborted, naturally.
I don't understand why bay area broadcasters wouldn't want to pronounce correctly and to be better at their profession. Poor grammar and mispronunciation run rampant in bay area television. As 6th in the market I can't tell if our broadcasters are on the way up or on the way down.
ReplyDeleteLincoln was a skeptic, though he believed in God as a higher power (and referenced God often), he doubted the divinity of Jesus.
ReplyDeleteDon’t miss….The JFK speech we never heard *meant for* the day we lost him:
ReplyDelete“JFK’s Prophetic Rebuke of TeaParty Politics”
(clip) “In a world of complex and continuing problems, in a world full of frustrations and irritations, America’s leadership must be guided by the lights of learning and reason — or else those who confuse rhetoric with reality and the plausible with the possible will gain the popular ascendancy with their seemingly swift and simple solutions to every world problem”.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/john-f-kennedys-prophetic-rebuke-of-tea-party-politics-20131122
Scholarly information about Lincoln and Christianity? Sounds exciting. Those scholars seem to know everything. Considering that few people, not excluding some of history's most notable non-believers, make it through life holding an absolute, unshakeable position on religion, I'm impressed to learn that scholars have nailed down the religious beliefs of Mr. Lincoln, a man to whom life gave many reasons to reconsider his personal convictions. And what do you bet that impressive scholarly information fits in snugly with the anti-Christian personal convictions most commonly found in academia and the media?
ReplyDeleteWell, arse, does it really surprise you that people who spend the bulk of their study time on Voltaire and Paine would be less likely to embrace the opiate of the masses? That includes all religions.Religions, throughout human history, have been created by non-believing powerful individuals(who pretend they believe) who want to control the powerless citizenry through fear. All wars are about territory and power. The fighting for God crap is the device used to get the cannon fodder willing to die for the warlords. There are never any real gawds/gods involved. History has so many answers you know, if you can just pull yourself away from the video games.
ReplyDeletefrom my new video game "Christine Crass, Horse's Ass"
ReplyDeleteWhen the president gazed at him, he mourned, "My poor boy, he was too good for this earth. God has called him home. I know that he is much better off in heaven, but then we loved him so. It is hard, hard to have him die!"
Abraham Lincoln speaking of his son Willie, and not sounding at all like Richard Dawkins.