Wednesday, September 4, 2013
Ronn Owens: Rails Against Likely US Intervention Into Syria Even Though He Supported Gung-Ho Iraq War; Giants Made $100M in 2013; Belstock Invades KPIX Mini-Fire After KTVU #OhShit Exit; Wednesday Bullet Points
**WEDNESDAY BULLET POINTS**
*Funny, the guy that screamed and yelled for US Military intervention into Iraq and supported the war throughout, good old mattress seller himself, Ronn Owens now is railing against our likely involvement in Syria.
Worse yet, when a caller on his KGO show tried to challenge him on his suddenly dovey approach, he promptly cut the call. Cowards have no courage. And Owen's sudden about-face is so wrought full of hypocrisy and revisionist thinking, you have to stop yourself from cackling and regurgitating.
*The Giants net earnings for 2013 are roughly a shade south of $100 million. That's pretty significant; too bad Owens never asked Giants big suit, Larry Baer about that financial detail when Baer was on his show Wednesday.
*Brad Belstock--by all accounts a very good guy--is about to enter a bigger hornet's nest than he just left--from KTVU to KPIX but he'll get a check.
*Dan Rosenheim Update: The more you tell people NOT to talk to me the more you look foolish and paranoid. Wait! You already are. Go hoist a few with the sports anchor. And another thing, Rosey: you don't intimidate me. The reporters think your a dickhead too.
*KPIX new slogan: At least we're not KTVU!
*Ron Lowenstein real agony: That Michael Savage makes $20M and Owen's paltry $475K is just over the Mendoza line.
*On collision course: Some writers that appear on "The Game: 95.7 FM" who are getting paid for appearances pissing off KNBR. (Details coming soon).
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Republicans are having their worst nightmare--a Democrat president who's a bigger hawk than their boys. He also embraced Romney's answer to spiraling health costs. So what's a tool to do? Stand everything on its head and hate the things they used to love, till the black kid with the big ears started doing them. So now the hawks are doves, Romneycare is Obamacare and proactive measures are :"socialism," even though your average ditto-header couldn't define socialism or pass a 9th grade civics course if their life depended on it. I always said I wanted to see what would happen if a "liberal" Democrat embraced the conservative platform. It's happened. Republicans don't know where to shit now.
ReplyDeleteIt's a media blog koolaid drinker.
DeleteExplain to us why the media is relatively hush hush on the 4 billion dollars being printed every day and where that's leading us.
Explain why the media outlets not known for being hard right are musing about how obama's voters, the young, are not on board with obama care.
Explain why Syria has gain traction in politics and media... 2 years too late.
Explain why the media portrays Obama as having no strategy for syria....dog chases car, dog catches car, then what?
Though I'm an independent voter and concede that you bring up valid concerns, your black and white view of politics is troubling. If the media did a better job, I'd imagine the parties would have much weaker support.
> Explain to us why the media is relatively hush hush on the
Delete> 4 billion dollars being printed every day and where
> that's leading us.
Probably the same reason they're hush-hush on the subject of sasquatch, UFOs and Area 51.
> Explain why the media outlets not known for being hard
> right are musing about how obama's voters, the young, are
> not on board with obama care.
Where's the evidence the young are not on board for Obamacare? Were they ever on board for Romneycare?
> Explain why Syria has gain traction in politics and
> media... 2 years too late.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGNT3f02XsE
So you're saying Obama should have been aggressive with Syria two years ago? Then why aren't Republicans wanting to get aggressive even now?
> Explain why the media portrays Obama as having no
> strategy for syria....dog chases car, dog catches car,
> then what?
Where are they saying this? Cite?
What strategy did GW have after 9/11? Other than dressing up in a flight suit and standing on an aircraft carrier pretending he flew a plane in, and saying "Mission Accomplished"?
were Republicans printing money during the Bush/Cheney wars or were they paid for some other way? please take your time in explaining.
Deletewhile youre doing that you might want to check out this commie liberal publication, Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/
Well-said 2:17. I wonder why we heard no concern about all the money were "printing" when Bush ran up deficits for two unpaid-for wars, consuming the huge Clinton surplus. (You know, Clinton, that liberal "tax-and-spend" Democrat who balanced the budget, something no Republican, including Reagan, has ever done.) Where was all this outrage when we were doubling and eventually tripling our spending between 2001 and 2008? We only started noticing it in 2009.
DeleteI'm not sure exactly how to communicate with liberal sheep. They say liberalism is a mental disorder...but I'll try. I'll educate you just a bit. So if you have time between burning your bra and riding around Berkeley on your bicycle try visiting www.liberalmediabs.com .
DeleteMaybe you'll learn a thing or 2.
I like your blog, but I think you are being fair to Ronn, although not one of my favorites and although he is not as good as he use to be I think you are making some assumptions. First of all I never really sensed that Ronn is jealous of Savage, they don't like eachother, but I think Ronn is smart enough and know the radio business well enough that salaries don't mean that much. Gene Burns the master, never made close to what Savage and Hannity or Limbaugh makes, yet he could run circles around them. Ronn was gung ho on the war, and it was annoying, but long time ago, long before we got out of Iraq, he came out and said he was wrong, and he has no problem admitting it anytime someone brings it up. I do think sometime your blog turns into a personal vendetta, without objective observation. As you have said it is your blog, so that is fine if that is what you want your blog to be, but then those of us that reads it feel compelled to respond. Ronn seem to have a successful family life, don't know about Savage, but he seem to have problems getting along with most people.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a fan of the mattress man, no, your right.
DeleteHey, now that there's detente with Radnich Rich has to pick on somebody . . .
DeleteIf KGOne replaced Ronn Owens with Rich Lieberman and "Lieberman Live," weekdays from 9-12, brought back John Rothmann, Bernie Ward and Ray Taliaferro, it would be like old times and 810 would once again soar to the top of the ratings heap, and stay there. Not only that, but the should make Rich Lieberman their programming director and give him full reign to restore KGOne to its prior glory, a gargantuan task that only Rich has the vision and gravitas to accomplish.
DeleteI see little hope of any reconciliation, let alone detente, between Rich, a man of honor, and the cowardly Mr. Lowenstein. Why he has to hide under the moniker "Ronn Owens" is another story.
DeleteMichael Savage may make that money through other businesses, but he certainly doesn't make that money from Cumulus. He makes nothing close to that from Cumulus. Maybe you're suggesting he owns inventory, employs a sales team, and sells his spots to earn it, but the word on the streets is he makes maybe $2 Million from the company itself. He was bargaining from a position of zero leverage.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you're going to go with Lowenstein, you may as well go with Wiener.
Owens is a weak host, and isn't very intelligent. This isn't a surprise to anyone.
I prefer when both hosts discuss the wars from the Israeli perspective, as if either of them are Israeli. That's when the conversation gets really dumb, on both sides.
It's been well known for a while that Savage has a stake in Rock Star Energy drink, which his son Russell founded in 1998. Family business is doing good man, real good. Talk Radio, chump change.
ReplyDeleteI am so glad Russ lost that Shitty Marin County Election.
DeleteI look forward to when Savage's minions start posting on the board in defense of him, again. Like they were doing the last time Rich made a Savage-related post. My buddy tells me Savage dictates what they write!
DeleteIf we're including what Wiener makes from Rockstar, then it'd only be fair to include Ronn's investments, no? Of course no one knows what those are. What we do know is Savage doesn't get paid that much from Cumulus, and neither does Ronn. But is there a point? Tim Lincecum makes a lot more money than Bartolo Colon, no?
I'm not arguing Ronn is better than Savage. He's not. Ronn's a bore. But why are we even comparing the two? Besides, conservative radio is a much easier ball game than liberal radio, or whatever it is Ronn does/is.
I just got done taking in KGO three things struck me. (1)The intro guy. He sounds like a half white half black guy at a Berkly coffee shop,trying to pick up the 18yr old blond collage students.(2) Between Sweet Jack and PSA announcements there are no other ads.(3) If you want the younger crowd stop playing Taking care of Business by Bachman–Turner Overdrive,as a lead into your business news. Come on BTO I am in my 30s and had to look up the band name. May as well play The Andrews Sisters prior to talking about Syria.
ReplyDeleteLet me know where I can find one of these collage students. I have a lot of old newspaper clippings I'd like to make into a nice collage, but I can never find the time to do it myself.
DeleteSorry College Students Boy I really Fucked that one up. I can not even blame that on my black berry.
Delete"A half-white, half-white black guy at a Berkeley coffee shop trying to pick up 18-year-old blonde college students."
DeleteDo I smell a racist stereotype here?
RCL: You've got some explaining to do.
I don't see racism. I see someone who doesn't drink the Kool-Aid and feel he has to be politically correct. The entire Bay Area is full of racists and racism it's just not brought out into the open. Do you really think all these Asians look as you as an equal? You and everyone else that throws racism out there has a lot to learn about how these different ethnicities really "coexist".
DeleteNo explaining to do. I am comfortable with the comment.
DeleteI am so proud of Gil Gross for supporting President Obama's call for a military strike against Syria. The Assad regime, armed with and not afraid of using its vast arsenal horrific chemical weapons, is an existential threat to the Jewish state of Israel and must be neutralized. We must stand by Israel. Yesterday, in a phone interview aired on Talk 910, Congressman Tom McClintock spoke against Congress authorizing the president use limited and narrow military force to deter Syria and degrade its war-making capability. After the call was over, Gil said "Tom McClintock doesn't know what he's talking about," and he was right! Thank you, Gil! Mazeltov!
ReplyDeleteDaughter: Mommy, why does the US want to strike Syria over the use of chemical weapons?
DeleteMom: Because using chemical weapons is bad honey.
Daughter: Mommy, what's Agent Orange?
Yep. In the battle of the minds, Gil Gross clearly trounced the pathetic Tom McClintock, a darling of the Tea Party right and an isolationist Republican. I heard the back and forth between them and I doubt McClintock will allow himself to be grilled by Gil again.
DeletePresident Obama has said he did not set the red line, the world community did. He is acting, in the great humanitarian tradition, to save infants, children and women from the Nazi-like death machine that is Assad's ruthless dictatorial regime in Syria.
As Secretary of State John Kerry said, history will judge the U.S. harshly if it chooses not to act in the face of these terrible atrocities.
Fukushima ...
DeleteDaughter: Mommy, what's Agent Orange?
DeleteA. An awesome punk band from Socal back in the 80's.
Q. Daddy, what's white phosphorus?
Trolling hard. You guys bots or what? One way or the other, you are.
DeleteNothing about the U.S. about to aid a sworn enemy in a sovereign nation, an act of treason.
Nothing about the litany of evidence that leads to the Al-ciada "rebels" as the perps for the chemical attacks.
If Conservatives want to start in on False Flags, lets roll it back to either Aurora, Sandy Hook, Boston or 9/11.
Nothing about Kerry's 5 separate visits to wine and dine with Assad. Assad doesn't play ball, but did he know Kerry was meeting with the "rebels" on those visits?
The level of perspective of the troll bots here is laughable. go back to CNN and regurgitate DNC talking points.
It is 1938.
DeleteSecretary of State John Kerry could not be more clear about the gravity of the situation we face: the United States faces a 'Munich moment' in deciding whether to respond to the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian government.
Exactly right. The 'lessons of Munich' and the dangers of appeasement must be heeded.
If the U.S. does nothing in response to the heinous use of chemical weapons by Syria's government, it will embolden him to carry out more such attacks on a wider scale, inflicting more agonizing mass death on the populace. Not only that, it will be the green light for other rogue pariah states and terrorist groups bent on our destruction to begin using all kinds of biological and chemical weapons. Those who vote against Obama and a military strike will have blood on their hands.
President Obama wants to be remembered not as Neville Chamberlain, but as the bold and decisive president who ordered and successfully carried out the capture or killing of Osama Bin Laden.
@6:49
DeleteAre you the only one that didn't laugh when Obama backtracked and basically said, "Oh no...I didn't draw a red line...it was the world community! Not me! So don't hold me to it! Even when I take a walk around the White House garden and suddenly want congressional approval."
The king of the blame game.
I personally feel every Republican in the House and Senate should vote "Present" when they vote on whether or not to take action in Syria. Just as your messiah did 129 times in the Senate. That way when it turns into a disaster the Democrats can't play the blame game...as they always do.
sooooooo, if you are for military intervention in one case and learn that that A) it does not always work, and / or B) you were fooled into believing it was the right thing to do, then you ALWAYS have to be for military action or you will be called a hypocrite. I guess you don't follow the philosophy that those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it
ReplyDeleteRepublicans aren't hypocrites for not supporting action against Syria because they only support a fake crisis. They remain consistent.
DeleteEssentially yes.
DeleteBut the very same double standard that seemingly applies here to Ronn Owens also applies to Barrack Hussein Obama as the dovish Senator and the war hawk President.
So you admit 1) the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were failures and 2) we really lacked the evidence for these initiatives in the first place, despite the claims Colin Powell, Dick Cheney, et al, made repeatedly to the media between 2002 and 2005?
DeleteYou people used to have a word for people like you...Oh yeah, LIBTARD.
Funny you don't hear it so much now.
Now libtards are the ones who think man is the chief cause of global warming. In ten years, of course, you'll be saying, "sooooooo, if you are for denying rising temperatures in one case and learn that that A) it does not work, and / or B) you were fooled into believing it was the right thing to do, then you ALWAYS have to be for denying rising temperatures or you will be called a hypocrite. I guess you don't follow the philosophy that those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Welcome to the other side, libtard. Glad you finally saw the light. Only took you twelve years, but I guess that's better than never..
> Republicans aren't hypocrites for not supporting action against Syria
Delete> because they only support a fake crisis. They remain consistent.
What was "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction" and "the answer could appear over Washington in the shape of a mushroom cloud"?
What were those satellite photos that everyone except the Bush administration knew weren't nuclear-weapons-making machinery?
I think most liberals remain consistent in being against the phony Iraq War and being against action in Syria as well. But at least the situation in Syria is current and real.
DeleteI stop by the blog about once a week just to check-in. I used to read daily, but your negativity just wears me down. You've had some luck attracting other media folks to your blog and show. Eventually, this will stop if you don't drop the mean-spiritedness.
ReplyDelete6:04 p.m. is right about Rich's negativity, but only up to a point. You see, Rich fancies himself as a media critic who calls them the way he sees them. He spares no punches in the well-deserved criticism he levels at those in the media who've blundered or had ethical lapses. He spares no one, from Ronn Owens to the corporate media giants. Is he "mean-spirited?" I say no, but what do those reading this blog have to say?
Delete*Do you think Rich's blog is "too negative" and that he's "mean-spirited?"
*If so, please cite examples.
Rich has created a market for his product, by and large because no one else has the stones to do it. I find that most local newspapers, columnists, etc., don't go after people or subjects with much venom. It's sort of like how I feel about Ronn and Damion Bruce (he hates being called Damion): I don't agree with their opinions all the time but they are good at what they do. Perhaps it's the East Coast-er in me that likes an edge in my media and media coverage.
DeleteRich is so right when he says "cowards have no courage."
ReplyDeleteOur beloved President Obama, a Nobel Peace Price winner, has shown himself to be a man of peerless courage and the greatest leader the world has seen in decades.
Now more than ever, we need to come together as a nation, and support our chief executive as he does what is right and necessary in Syria. If we fail to act, the consequences will be catastrophic.
Rich.
Deleteseriously,
you got a get a spam detector. Either this is over the top sarcasm or a bot. Nobody is really thinking like this except the larcenist criminals about to set yet another war with yet another false flag.
I couldn't finish reading your post. I was laughing so hard I was crying. Good job! Oh man I needed that laugh.
DeleteHEY, ALL YOU FAKE LIBERALS getting paid meal money for your work here. Listen up!
DeletePCCC: Progressive Change Campaign Committee mentioned 57,000 of their activists chimed in at 73% AGAINST military action. Just 18% in support.
That seems about right considering the actual mood of the country, though you would never know it here with all the shills merely parroting the Administrations talking points. Which is my point...you can't be actual Liberals, the numbers don't add up. You are shills trolling for yet another illegal war.
Ok, Mike.
DeleteIt's nice to see non-serving chickenhawks like Ronn Owens find their inner-pacifistic core. How touching. My eyes are starting to well up.
ReplyDeleteCan't people change their mind, without getting attacked. Several people did and have. I see too much small minded meanness in many of the responses in this blog, towards Ronn, Christine others, it is very discouraging, and sometimes when it comes to Ronn some of that comes from Rich, wishes the conversation could be elevated to a higher classier level.
DeleteThe pictures of Kerry wining and dinning with Assad two years ago are priceless. Suddenly Assad is a "thug" according to that stiff faced Kerry. This nation is officially a laughing stock. We can now put all of these so called leaders of the USA in one corner and prove once and for all they're one and the same. Noam Chomsky was right all along. Chomsky would put to shame Matress Man and Gil Gross on a two on one debate. Besides, Gross has become a nobody. I'm surprised anyone listens to him and Rhoooooodaaaaaa! Rich, for my sanity you must end detente with the bloated one.
ReplyDeleteBarrack Obama is a weak and dithering fool.
ReplyDeleteThis is direct quote from a leading Syrian newspaper.
Liberals care to respond?
Would you like to hear what the Middle Eastern papers say about Bush? I don't listen to what FOX News has to say, let alone what they're saying in random Syrian Newspapers. I'm also pretty positive whatever is said in Syrian Newspapers won't really have any affect on the situation.
DeleteYou should probably be more concerned what Americans are doing, genius.
@ Anonymous 10:31- I bet if Obama had an "R" after his name instead of a "D" you'd be all gung-ho for this attack, now wouldn't you?
DeleteJoke.
Liberals can and will not respond because they it is the truth.
DeleteLet's see the British Parliament votes against military action in Syria, the Pope comes out against military action. Obama? Truly a weak individual who is out of his element.
Obama's move to serve the ball at high speeds to congress was brilliant. See Daily Beast re: AIPAC's full tilt boogie "contacting" members of congress. This is why you see so many right wingers supporting the president while saying how weak and ineffectual he is ...priceless.
ReplyDeleteIf only a Navy seal team could slip into Damascus and clip Asma Assad's credit cards, eliminating her ability to buy crocodile couture handbangs like Oprah! Then she'd kill her hubby and we could all take a deep breath...for a moment.( see VOGUE, Joan Juliet Buck's piece on "The Rose of the Dessert". gag.
As for dining with world leaders, breaking bread with the enemy always helps you know them, not a bad thing.
Thank God we don't get to hear Christine's silliness on air any more. I gather two years ago Kerry already knew he would be Secretary of State while sipping Bordeaux with Assad huh Christine? He was doing recognizance work ahead of the alleged gas attack because he knew the guy who he claimed was our friend would turn out to he a "thug"!? Take off your Democratic blinders honey. The vast majority of the world is against war mongers of your type.
DeletePoor anonymous 8:32, apparently unaware of Senator Kerry's chairmanship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, unaware that I'm neither a democrat nor a warmonger,nor a honey....I am fascinated,however, by your description of what you call John Kerry's "recognizance" work? Are you sure that's what you mean? If you are, you really need a good dictionary.
DeleteLike clock work Christine avoids the subject at hand and becomes a grammar queen. You support an attack on Syria. You're wrong babe!
DeleteAlthough I don't agree with 8:32 about everything, we agree about the most important thing.
Delete"Thank God we don't get to hear Christine's silliness on air any more.",
It's truly hopeless. 9:43 accused me of being, sequentially, a democrat,a war monger(sic), and a honey. I directly addressed each point and refuted each. Gosh if you hate me so for suggesting a way to neuter Assad without bloodshed, you must really detest former Secretary Hillary Clinton. You do know her take on Syria, of course?
Delete9:43 equates her insufficiences of grammar with the stupidity of using an inappropriate word. Grammar issues occur when you start a sentence with "Her and I" , for example. Stupidity occurs when you use "recognizance", when you mean something else,quite laughably.
Were you schooled in front of a video game?
I offered a tongue-in-cheek solution to the Syrian problem, referring to the Vogue, Buck article about Asma Assad's wild couture spending using the assets from her hubby's tortured subjects. I suggested that if her credit cards could be destroyed(no war, no bloodshed,etc), then she would be so verklempt that she'd drive her spouse over the edge.
As for 10:10, how pathetic that you have no ability to choose what you want to listen to or watch. Have you always been so weak willed?
And finally, a non-grammatical point, but rather one involving simple spelling, clockwork(as in my fav. movie "A Clockwork Orange") is one word, not two.
Christine's disorganized, rambling tirades quicky become incoherent.
DeleteThe only thing that's obvious is how angry she is. The woman is bursting with rage and can barely control herself.
I think it's pretty funny that a big strong anonymous character like you is so afraid of little uppity old me.
DeleteUse the "angry" meme with someone who is intimidated by it.
I think I'm done trying to debate old Spyglass hag Craft. Seriously, gather your thoughts in a coherent manner, take three aspirin and try again. At least you spared us any mention of your lawsuits of 1845 and your appearance on Dave Letterman in 1952. Phew! (Did I spell phew right or will you write a whole paragraph on the proper spelling: "fphew"!???
DeleteHuh?
DeleteChristine can barely control her inner rage but not aware that anyone is afraid of her.
Thankfully Christine also spared us lectures on attack dogs, automatic weapons, the joy of caring for aging parents, and Asperger syndrome.
DeleteOh Christine, please come back and deliver another of crazy tirades. They are so darn funny.
Delete10:31pm - he should have had Colin Powell go on TV and show some drawings of scary weapons of mass destruction. Then invade the country a few doors down from Syria.
ReplyDeleteWould you prefer that? And why should you care what a Syrian newspaper had to say?
Savage has been right on the money on this Syria nonsense. They are ALL bad guys over there. Dr Bill had it right. Turn the camera's off, walk away from ALL of them. Feinstein/Boxer/Pelosi don't give a damn what Californian's think. It's enough to make you want to move to Idaho. Sickening.
ReplyDeleteOwens is a buffoon. He changed his mind when the finger he was holding up to the wind got frostbitten. What was the body count of American soldiers at that point? Burns/Ward/Taliafero had no problem seeing through the neocon PNAC BS right from the start. Wattenburg is UberHawk but he is consistent, he believes what he says.
Savage had it right? Why, because he took EVERY position? Just a couple months ago he's wailing about how dare we abandon Egypt, but the month before that he was wailing about how we're supporting them militarily. Of course he's for walking away from people being gassed, but if it was Jews being gassed he wouldn't want to hear it. Of course, as of last week, this was all an Israeli conspiracy! So just because he says A LOT of things doesn't make him right. Just so happens he only remembers the side of the bet he won.
DeleteIn other words, he's just as wrong as everyone else, and lately more so than most, but he's also right too! It's called being old and forgetful.
At the end of the day, viewing this as anything more than entertainment is pointless.
Yeah, "Savage has been right on the money." Oh, today's he's RON PAUL!
Bill raises the question, but he also knows that the US will never abandon Israel. His take on that has been that we should also turn our backs on Israel...."Sometimes I think we should just turn our backs on all of them", he has often said,"and let them sort it out amongst themselves".
DeleteNo one is supporting Barrack Obama on Syria.
ReplyDeleteA weak miserable failure of a President.