Thursday, February 14, 2013

Michael Savage Part 2: The Lack of Tolerance from the Tolerance People

It still amazes me that the so-called progressive/liberal community in SF is known for its compassion and "tolerance." Tolerance. What tolerance?

Michael Savage is an acquired taste. I didn't say he was the gospel--I was merely commenting more so on his professional performance. He is a brilliant radio artist. Do I agree with everything he says? No, do you all agree with everything about your own gospel--do all of you put forth your faith into one individual? Don't any of you consider the idea that some of these performers are doing a show? Not literally, of course, but figuratively speaking.

The Bay Area is a lovely environment. The city is beautiful and the restaurants and weather are second to none. Too bad some of the people in this town have a very small mind and don't practice real tolerance. From all sides of the aisle and entertainment venue. Breathe a little, Bay Area.

Savage is not for everyone, I get it, yet the hysterical fact is that his main artistic radio template has very little to do with politics. Maybe some of you need to actually listen to him every once and a while as opposed to making observations based on absolutely little thought or creativity. Yeah, creativity.

I have rarely seen such vitriolic mush from a group of people who's holier-than-thou image amounts to as much sincerity as a box of saltines as an appetizer at Gary Denko. Wake up and smell the roses.

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51 comments:

  1. "liberals "or excuse me "progressives" believing in free speech.
    " bull crap"

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  2. Mike Savage? He doesn't deserve a friend as good as Rich. I give him that.

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    1. I don't need friends...a good pastrami on rye will suffice.

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    2. Breaking bread with Michael Savage and Rich Lieberman would be a blast. Bring the dog, too. I'd like to hear what Michael thinks of cats.

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  3. Rich, your hypocrisy is off the charts.

    You're suddenly a flower child complaining about vitriol when then same vitriol is what you're peddling. Day in, day out, you are angry about this or that, villainous Cumulus, stupid local media, big local media personality A or B.

    Yet when you put up an article about the obviously polarizing Michael Savage, you are taken aback by the "hysterical response" and start with your ... Come on people now smile on your brother everybody get together, try TO love one another right now... shtick.

    Frankly, I would have no problem with your tolerance for Michael Savage as an acquired taste stance if you yourself demonstrated similar tolerance toward others.

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    1. Another predictable bit of babble from so-called, "F and B." You're infatuated with me.

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    2. Lieberman is an asskisser to Savage because he really thinks Savage gives a shit about him. He doesn't. Rich is stroking him looking for an "in" to get him out of Watsonville and thinks that since Lieberman scratches and kisses his ass, Savage will reciprocate. Don't hold your breath. Or maybe you should

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    3. Funny, YOU just wrote to this "asskisser"--I'm thinking you just can't live without me. Thanks for the plug.

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    4. The only plug you've got, Rich, is the one you've got stuck up your ass. Ooooh. Sorry, shouldn't have said "ass" like you do on your radio show!

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    5. Actually, Rich, I think I raised a relevant point about apparent hypocrisy. I take your inability to answer intelligently as an indication you have nothing but lame insults to answer with.

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    6. F and B raises good questions and points but it appears Lieberman like his idol Savage is unable to engage in debate, rather he resorts to childish name calling and simply saying: "don't read me or listen to me". Come on man! You brought up the subject, people are pushing back now can you reply intelligently? I guess not. I'll be shocked if this post makes it past your censor button.

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  4. Excuse me? "Victrolic mush?" You constantly rag on your targets, but I guess that's not vitriolic? WTF?

    You still don't get it, and neither does 9:42. Savage can blather all day--it's a free country. I just choose not to listen--man just bores the living daylight out of me.

    Yes, I happen to be a liberal--however you want to paint me--but I was a huge William F. Buckley fan back in the day! I simply enjoy intelligent discourse.

    I like and respect Debra Saunders (conservative columnist for sfgate) as well. Turning off Savage isn't partisan for me--I welcome viewpoints that aren't mine WHEN THEY ARE pRESENTED WITH LOGICAL AND WITTY COMMENTARY! I

    Savage, to me, is just another windbag waste of time.

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    1. And you're entitled to your opinion, it's a great country, ain't it?

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    2. Glad to have you authorize my right to an opinion!

      BTW, on another note--I totally support you promoting yourself on your very own blog! WTF are people thinking? That you'd just publicize everyone else instead of yourself?

      I hereby authorize your continued self pimping here. (So THERE!)

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    3. "Thanks", sincerely, Rich's pimp posse.

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  5. Tony has several thoughts...

    1) Hate and intolerance make the world go around every bit as much as peace, love and hippie beads.

    2) The right is more honest about their self interest and narrow mindedness then the left.

    3) Happy Valentines day to the many sour puss 415 media trolls.

    4) Phil Matier reported, as others probably did, on the purchase of a 350k anti WMD buggy for Marin last night. Tony wonders which irresponsible politician(s) asked for the grant, who rubber stamped to piss away the(our)money, and what the legacy of ownership will amount to after you tally training, maintenance and operating costs. Tony says the buggy will be used for parades and Tony is VERY pissed. Tony wants Phil to dig much deeper into buggygate.

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    1. These people bitch until God forbid one day something happens here in the Bay Area.

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    2. Tony,

      That #2 is absurd. I assume you're saying the right is more honest because of their actions, yet they are also claiming the mantle of judeo-christian religions, which i believe has tenets rooted in a belief of doing for others, and not yourself. So while we all know, and agree, the right is more selfish, they have attempted to publicly co-opt religion, so as to appear pious and giving to their respective gods.

      In other words, your comment is complete garbage.

      As for Savage, Rich is solely writing about him because he believes Savage will discuss him on air and bring in more hits to the site. He's hopeful Dr. Savage will make his blog relevant because anyone who has ever heard Savage knows he'll read any press release about himself, assuming it's positive. They guy reads his own press releases that he writes!

      I listened to the show last night for the second time since he has come back to KSFO, and I really wasn't all that impressed. I was laughing when he read Rich's blog post though. There's so little out there that the great Doctor has to resort to reading local blog posts about himself?

      No amount of success for him would ever make me believe he's not a sad and lonely loser. Some things money can't by, and in his case it would be class and true friends. Hence why the guy was talking about dogs last night.

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    3. 10:48 made Tony giggle. Tony pictured the buggy in a parade and 10:48 was franticlly attempting to get inside...."we're all gonna die, I have too much to live for and the world won't get by without me". Tony says put vanity plates on the buggy~ BOONDGL.

      Tony thanks 11:50 for agreeing. Tony doesn't know what the inside of a church looks like but knows the 2000year old playbook is better than the situational ethics of the legislative folks. Tony finds humor when socialist types who reject religion don't want darwinism effecting their quality of life.

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    4. Is anyone else here put off by a commenter who routinely writes about himself/herself in the third person?? Perhaps it's just an undiagnosed borderline case of multiple-personality disorder.

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  6. Rich, you were accurate, and have been accurate, in your assessments of Michael Savage.

    Since we are all far from being perfect, I find it easier to try to focus on a person's redeeming qualities, rather than on those qualities that might not be so redeeming. I hope others do the same when considering me. None of us is perfect or without mistakes or inconsistencies.

    Although I don't often listen to Michael any more because I'm really burned out on political talk radio of ANY stripe, I really enjoy Michael's storytelling. He is, bar none, the best storyteller in America today, as you have so accurately noted several times on your popular blog.

    He's like my old Italian uncle or my Italian Grandpa. He can weave several stories into an entertaining tapestry that often provides a lot of insight, refelction, humor and more. In other words, enjoyable entertainment.

    I, like you, Rich, laugh at Michael's stories about his dog, his past dog, his forays into restaurants, or almost getting killed, as he stepped off a curb, by an arrogant San Francisco bicyclist who cares nothing for pedestrians or cars, or for the rules of the road, along San Francisco's waterfront a few years ago.

    I laugh with the thought that Michael had the same reactions as most males: he wanted to pummel the bicyclist. His contempt for lawless bicyclists is one shared by many, especially those of use who have ridden a lot.

    Lastly, I'm sick of this American preoccupation with the "left" and the "right," "liberal" and "conservative." Life is more nuanced than left and right, liberal and conservative.

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  7. Tolerance? We should be tolerant of hate speech, bigotry and misogyny? We are supposed to smile mildly and go about our business as Michael Savage smears decent Americans and advocates for the most egregious right-wing positions?

    No, I will never "tolerate" Michael Savage.

    Much as I enjoy your blog, I think your promoting of Savage does you great discredit.

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    1. The constant drumbeat for Savage is pathetic. Yes, I don't have to read this blog. In fact I don't think I will anymore...

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  8. Re: Savage...it's one of those deals where a broken clock tells the right time twice a day. To sit through an actual show of his or even a good portion just to hear a couple of entertaining morsels just isn't worth it. The guy is just another bag of hate. I agree that hardcore liberals and hardcore conservatives talk about, believe in and demand that some of the stupidest things that have no common sense be the correct way for people to live by. But once you read up on Savage's past, it's pretty clear that the beat poets and the Birkenstockers pissed him off/disrespected him (or worse) so severely that he did a 180 and used his life experiences to wring the vitriol out of every possible life scenario...beer is an acquired taste, Savage is poison.

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  9. 11:58 proves my point "progressives" being tolerant,beliving in free speech. progressives believe in thier free speech, nobody elses.
    "bull crap"

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    1. Exactly right. 11:58 probably smiles approvingly as MSNBC launches relentless personal (not policy) attacks against any conservative (especially minority conservatives) they perceive as a threat or who has disagreed with their position. I also fondly remember "Dirty Harry" Reid as he made up "trusted" anonymous sources to slander people from the Senate chamber - what a proud moment for him. The conservative right wing pundits might spout meaningless dribble as well, but they rarely resort to personal attacks, especially against children of candidates. Everything is fair game for liberals. We can now see the liberal smear machine targeting Marco Rubio starting with their "Watergate" (really?) offensive. Politics in this country smells like the hallways of Carnival Triumph.

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    2. 4:17 seems to think that 'tolerance' means 'blindly agree' or 'quietly acquiesce.' Free speech doesn't mean one person get to speak.

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  10. Rich Lieberman, the voice of tolerance, yeah right. He finally said something funny.

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  11. i listen to savage. the more i listen to him the more i am starting to dislike him. he is a hypocrite who agrees with drone attacks on us citizens abroad n one hand.,on the other he dis agree's with them. i take you back to oct. 4 2011 when savage said he is against drone strikes and agreed with the ACLU,CAIR and said if they can use dromes abroad they will use them in the states. so which is it mike? do you agree or disagree? why the change of heart. why wont your call screener let me ask you that question? im also tired of him always blowing his own horn every show. its gets boring hearing me,me,me all show. like he is the only one who grew up poor. he is no different then rush,hannity and levin. just a better bull crapper.

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  12. in other news, the Chronicle finally reports Lee Rodgers' death -- only 2 weeks late.

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articleComments/Lee-Rodgers-talk-radio-host-dies-at-75-4280083.php

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    1. The Chronicle writers were too busy playing golf at Pebble Beach compliments of Larry Baer.

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  13. I used to listen to Michael in the 90's but it really got crazy and I stopped. Now he has really changed and is not crazy anymore, but totally got real. What he says makes a lot of sense and the fact the United States is going into the toilet with Obama-Communist trying to destroy this country in his last 4 years. Like he says, we better wake up now before it's all over. We need to take our country back.

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  14. That's the biggest secret, and joke in San Francisco...That the town is "Tolerant" I had some friends of my that lived in Bernal Hts. for over 30 years, who were African-Americans that were ran out of the neighborhood by a person who was quite racist. SF is not a tolerant town at all, quite to the contrary

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    1. Looking for bigots in San Francisco.
      Need not go any further than St Ignatius high school.
      Or better yet visit the numbered Aves neigborhoods.
      More rednecks live there than South Boston.

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    2. 8:50 says "ran out of the neighborhood by a person" --- really, one person represents the 700,000+ residents of San Francisco?

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  15. As long as Savage engenders this kind of commentary then his routine ought to continue to be successful. He's entertaining to a point but I have not listened to him for years now and feel no intellectual loss.

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  16. Way to go, Rich! The Valentine's Day show on KOMY / KSCO was legendary, though very sad and disturbing. How did you come up with the schmuck guest you had? Ownership must be doing flip flops. Why didn't you just hang up on this guy and do a personal rant?

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  17. Hey Tony Clifton. Do the regular readers of this blog a big favor, and quit saying things such as "Tony Thinks," or "Tony knows." It makes you sound like 'Stan' or some of the other losers who write here regularly. You sound like some of those regulars who have no life and are constantly calling the talk shows. Grow up!

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    1. "Tony Clifton"'s name and posting style are a riff on an old Andy Kaufman character. It doesn't come off as very interesting.

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  18. After he insisted that the 49ers had won the Super Bowl in a senior moment,and then Kreuger reminded him they had lost...Radnich yesterday kept calling Catherine Heenan "Darya". And she had to step in and say I'm Catherine not Darya. You figure it out..

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  19. On my drive home from work I hear about 15 minutes, after Tom is off KNBR.

    Michael Weiner is a scared old man. When is the last time you heard an intelligent person debate him on air? As bad as Hannity and Levin are, at least they have guts. There's a reason Savage left NY, the supposed tough place he was from: because he wasn't tough enough. His imaginary life he has created for himself, based on being "Savage", is a fraud.

    He's lucky he found radio because as a supposed academic, did he ever teach anyone? Was he ever hired to teach at a school of significance? I'm sure there are reasons for that.

    He wails against people wrapping themselves up in the flag, yet he has cloaked himself inside a fake, tough guy, persona. It'd be one thing if I thought it was merely entertainment, but I don't think that's the case with this guy. I truly believe he buys his own B.S., but as mentioned, that's all it really is. I mean heck, Alan Colmes is tougher than this guy! He does entire shows taking on the other side.

    He's a weak old man, who knows how to entertain, but that doesn't make him not a fraud.

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  20. Pretty easy for me. I don't tolerate liars, be they from the right or left. Both sides have them of course, but the right has them at about ten times the left. And they seem very proud of it. Savage is, well, a savage. I won't be a bigger person by "tolerating" him any more than a Jew will be a bigger person by tolerating Nazis. Bad people are bad people, and should not be tolerated by anyone. This is not a progressive/conservative thing, much as you keep trying to shape it that way.

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  21. Rich, don't you wonder about the fact that a plurality of people who subscribe to your ideology are filled with bigotr,y hate, intolerance and threats of violence? If modern progressivisim is true then why do its proponents have to attack their opponents so viciously? The Tea Party doesn't do that.

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  22. Unfortunately, tolerance these days means that your opinion is tolerated only as far as you agree with what's politically-correct. If you say something against what's politically-correct, you're ostracized.

    I don't listen to Savage. I welcome differing points of view to the airwaves, though. I know people that have had to support him or his show, from a technical standpoint. None of them had nice comments to say on how he treated people he worked with. Knowing that makes me not want to listen.

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  23. > Unfortunately, tolerance these days means that your
    > opinion is tolerated only as far as you agree with
    > what's politically-correct. If you say something
    > against what's politically-correct, you're ostracized.

    I agree. I can't find Rush on the radio anywhere because he's always being ostracized for his un-PC rants. Does anyone know a station anywhere the carries him? Thanks!

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  24. Savage teaches people to hate those on the left and treats people who disagree with him like sh*t like calling them a mental disease and if you disagree with that your called intolerant.

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  25. Savage doesn't teach anything he is a talk show host

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  26. How disappointing. Savage was just brutal during the Bush years, spewing some truly hateful things.

    I knew there was a reason I hadn't checked in with your blog in awhile. You're suspect.

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