Lots of talk on the KGO Front, (and not at 900 anymore).
The biggie, sort of: Brian Copeland, a fill-in host and late of KGO-TV's recently cancelled, "7Live", is poised to replace Ronn Owens as the 9 AM to Noon talker in September. In fact, a KGO producer is already telling people that he will produce the show. (Not Jared Hart, the lovely assistant PD who presides over some of the intriguing moves at the station.)
Owens contract is up in January and in it is a fairly hefty buyout clause; specifics on whether Cumulus will eat the rest of the contract or negotiate a deal with Owens, (namely, Owen's agent, Don Buchwald), aren't clear. Assuming, of course, that Copeland takes over in September. Nothing is etched in stone, but three different broadcast sources have told me this scenario and it has legs.
*A move that is all but done: Tim Montemayor, the current Sat./Sunday mid-day host has been offered a job at an FM station in Chicago and is, according to sources, ready to take the position. "Monte" is from Chicago and was most recently, a morning host at Sports-talkie, The Game, (95.7 FM)
*Speaking of The Game, a station source tells me the FM outlet plans to make a strong push to get the rights to the Warriors broadcasts after the conclusion of next year's season when their contract with KNBR is up.
Warriors head brass are none too thrilled with being third banana to the Giants and 49ers; in fact, a bulk of their games are often on 1050 AM, Knibber's little sister of the poor sister station on AM.
Currently, The Game broadcasts Oakland A's baseball, but given the A's current nosedive, that hasn't provided the means for The Game to make any potent penetration into the Bay Area sports radio domain. Having the Warriors rights wouldn't hurt.
**Correction: Apologies to KSFO--I incorectly stated they slipped in the recently released trends on Monday; in fact, KSFO was up, (unexpectedly, but given the Election, had a decent bump, particulary in the morning).
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ReplyDeleteCumulus Signs Rivera - 6/11 - Cumulus will start running Fox Newser Geraldo Rivera's new 9 AM to noon radio show starting in mid-August on some of its talk stations. Probably in NYC and LA, but no word about DC, where local righty rager Chris Plante airs in the late morning slot on news talk WMAL, 105.9 FM/630 AM. Stay tuned.....
Geraldo?? Good god.
DeleteI hate you Cumulus.
I thought THEGAME first big mistake was not to sign the Raiders. It was a puzzler to me that they let..Live 105? to somehow get rights through some soucal Media corp.
ReplyDeleteAnd speaking of radio..Would somebody inform Raddy and Larry that when Kate Scotts lips are a movin,she's a talkin?. It never was a problem with Dibly. Over and over it happens...she's talking,her arms are gesturing..and all I hear is Kruger laughing like a Ed McMahon clone at his own jokes.
Thanks for the Radnich update 11:06; we're all waiting with bated breath!
DeleteOh wow-sarcasm. Glad you read me!
DeleteI can not believe that Brian Copeland is even on KGO at all, let alone being considered for Ronn's replacement. Not when you could go with Pat Thursten or Christine Craft. They both have so much more to offer and are not as irritable as Copeland. That said, My first choice would be the "Recovering Congressman", JD Hayworth.
ReplyDeleteProbably because Brian is younger than the others. Maybe they figure he can bring in the younger and the "ethnic" listening audience. However, since he's been considered "not a genuine black man", I don't know what his ethnic ratings are. His TV show didn't last. I didn't watch and don't know what their game plan was going in -- i.e. what demographic they were hoping to attract, but it must not have panned out since they cancelled it before this TV season was even over.
DeleteWith all the crazy moves, it's hard to imagine that KGO really has any long-term direction. They seem to keep changing hoping something will work. All news except 9-12 weekdays; mostly talk, although weak, on the weekends when it seems to me that far fewer people would be listening to the radio. Makes very little sense.
Anonymous 12:03: So right. I would love to listen to 3 hr of either of those women. It would send me back to KGO for at least that time slot.
DeleteI actually didn't know being black was ethnic. I just learned something.
DeleteThe Game needs the Raiders. The Warriors have passionate fans, but the NBA is not the NFL.
ReplyDeleteOK, three items.
ReplyDelete1) Who is this Jared Hart, and how did he get so much damn power? He's not the call screener, is he? hahha Where did he come from, and why is he so influential at KGO? Did he effectively take Jack Swanson's place?
2) Copeland - likeable, but he has a THIN knowledge base. I once asked him (on the air) a setup question to my larger question. "Brian, do you think that Germany is a rich or poor country?" His reply, "I don't know if it's a rich or poor country."
Well, we'll get even more discussions about racism than Ronn Owens, who already talked it to death.
3) "Ronn Owens buyout" - is this being pitched by Owens agent, so that they can both make even more money?
Please tell me why? It makes no sense.
Copeland, Thurston, or Craft won't move the needle or stem the tide. KGO has largely abandoned talk radio. And as far as Owens some ironclad "non disclosure", exactly what "horrible" things would he disclose about Cumulus? I see no benefit to them ending his KGO stint early, there will be a goodbye article whenever he leaves.
Agree on all counts. Who cares about Jared? Copeland is ok, but kind of boring and without depth. Thurston and Craft, while nice, are one (maybe two) trick ponies.
DeleteKGO would have been in MUCH better shape if they had slashed their new department and remained an all (or mostly) local talk station, ala KFI. Dumb dumb dumb. There were/are so many place you can already get news.
Why would anyone choose "the station who can do it the cheapest with the fewest resources!"
This says nothing about the quality of the news department, but Cumulus has no commitment whatsoever to quality ethical journalism or the funding that is required to keep the all-new thing up for long.
KSFO morning ratings are up because - my guess - Melanie Morgan is back on the air.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Suss the freak show and Melanie the freak show. However, more people would rather listen to Meanie Melanie that Stupid Sussman. Fascist radio for the masses. Signed a conservative who forgot to drink the contemporary conservative Kool-Aid.
DeleteLive 105 has a year deal with the Raiders, with an opportunity to renew at the end of the next season. That's one of the reasons, all you radio geniuses (Monday Morning Quarterbacks) that KGMZ does not air the Raiders. Further more CBS doesn't even own the rights to the Raiders, they are only an affiliate. That honor belongs to a NY radio syndication company. The package is not very attractive anyway, in terms of revenue opportunities.
ReplyDeleteThe Warriors are not a ratings factor,unlike say...oh the LA Lakers. They will do nothing to the pitiful state of KGMZ. How long can Entercom afford to lose money on this poorly positioned station?. They are purging cash to keep this loser going. Only an A's pennant would save them, and that will never happen.
Thats the situation NOW, you Tuesday morning radio genius wannabe. THEGAME's first year..let the Raiders slip away.
Delete3:43- This is the last of a 3- year deal, they didn't let shit slip away since the agreement was signed in 2010 with CBS. You are truly clueless. Maybe you can explain it how in mid contract they could wrestle the deal away and place it on the Game. Didn't think so.
DeleteWhich is why I said few months back on this site that PBP does not always equate into ratings (or revenue) success.
DeleteCosts a great deal of money for some pro franchises broadcast rights and what a station gets in return, often they are lucky to break even.
There are exceptions...the Giants, Red Sox, Yankees, Lakers...but that is why they are exceptions, and NOT the rule regarding the myth that PBP guarantees ratings and success and is a "must have" for sports stations. Sure it is content and takes up time, but again if it is lousy content and "takes up time"..well you get the point.
And in the case of the Giants, sure great ratings bump for KNBR, but I bet the revenue...and lets face it, radio is about the bottom line (and always has been regardless of the insanity of the past 15+ years or what folks wring their hands about when folks get fired) for the "privilege" to carry the Giants, I am sure breaking even they feel lucky to even do that. It may help their profile and bona fides, but if KNBR could find something suitable to broadcast and didn't have to carry PBP , and save the hassle time, energy, and cost, they'd let Giants walk.
The Game didn't exist yet, so the Raiders couldn't wait for 95.7 to "appear", and in fact the word I heard was that 105 was on the verge of flipping to sports as CBS has some the more successful sports stations around the country, but got beat to the punch by Entercom, so that may be another reason why the Raiders are with LIVE 105, being told at the time to sit tight and that 105 was going to be sports station, so sign with us.
NBA on radio...I think I'd rather listen to Right Wing talk...or more likely put my head in a vice.
Thats what you say unemployed genius. THEGAME still could have been in business.
DeleteI loose that station in Fremont, needs a better signl or position
DeleteWow, sorry to see Monty leave KGO. I am a fan. Maybe they will bring Stacy Taylor in on a permanent weekend basis.
ReplyDeleteI like Brian Copeland, too, although it seems like I stand alone here. He has filled in capably for Ronn when Ronn has been on vacation. I'll listen.
BTW, I don't work for KGO.
Coppy gets the job. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Thurston sucks. She is just as bad. She loves to repeat certain words many times. The Crafty One is better but she is so limited in her arguments. All of these dorks have a narrow view of life.
ReplyDeletePeople should seriously get over that KGO is DOA. Listen to KQED. Be liberal and stupid.
Talk about narrow. I'm conservative and I have liberal friends who are extremely intelligent. What a sniveling idiot you are 1:20.
DeleteOh, 1:20, the conservatives here hate me. They say I'm a fake conservative. I just don't drink their mean-spirited Kool-Aid shake that has insanity mixed in with Meanie Melanie thinking and Stupid Sussman the Madman Weatherman who suddenly is expert on everything ~ except the truth.
Melanie: Go troops! Hate Liberals! Send the illegals home!
Gets old.
Thank you, 3:25!
DeleteI am a leftie, but come from a family of INTELLIGENT conservatives. The right wing crazy talk these days is nonsense.
thanks, 6:42. I guess I'm old enough to realize we need liberals, conservatives, and more to make this country work. I don't like the hate talk. It has ruined so-called conservative thought and made it a Limbaugh mockery. The hatred of liberals ~ fellow Americans, not to mention humans, is disgusting.
Delete"Bitter ... party of one. Bitter ..."
DeleteBrian Copeland has a very irritating voice, sorry won't win my time.
ReplyDelete"Copeland to take over for Ronn Owens in September"
ReplyDeleteInteresting choice.
I am not sure I agree with this but I'll wait and see.
3 words: Books on Tape
ReplyDeleteI'm done with KGO. I like Pat Thurston. She is far more engaging, takes on real issues, etc. I like Brian, but he's a sleeper.
ReplyDeleteIsn't the little sister station where you find KNBR hosts 'little sister' by the name of d bruce?
ReplyDelete@anon 1:20p. Stay conservative and don't have a clue. Listen to your Beck and Limbaugh and lose brain cells in the process. Christine and Thurston are way more intelligent than those two hate mongers. BTW, Obama will beat the elitist flip-flopper Con Romney with ease.
ReplyDeleteIsn't Cumulus supposed to be a conservative co.?
ReplyDeleteFunny it took them to bring a "person of color" to a primetime slot. Former GM Mickey Luckoff had 30+ years, and never did that. Ha!
I thought KGO wanted to go all news, so why would they get another talk show host? KGO's a complete joke. Who woulda thought?
ReplyDeleteThe best news is Timothy Montemayor aka Timoteo Minteminor is out. In private even he probably thinks KGO sucks so he is bailing out. One year ago who would've thought Brian Copeland not only would survive the bloodbath but would eventually get the Lowenstein show? Are white corporate people so afraid of firing an incompetent black entertainer? He is against reparations so I doubt he would sue if they fired his ass. He must have pictures. Is it any coincidence that the two worst talk show hosts on KGO are comedians and somehow they keep getting ahead? There has to be some sort of comedy cabal putting the squeeze on Jared Hart to promote these two clowns. There is no other explanation!! I have to think Cosby is part of the conspiracy, no wonder Copeland let's him tell the same tired stories everytime he interviews him.
ReplyDeleteWow! 4:48! More hate talk from you. I don't get it at all.
DeleteAnd WHY do you keep referring to Owens as Lowenstein, when you at least have the good grace to type "Timothy Montemayor aka Timoteo Minteminor?"
One can only surmise that Ronn PISSED YOU OFF in some way, somehow. Chill already
Good point, from now on I will write: Ronnnnnnnnn Owens aka Ronnnnnald Lowenstein. Why do you hate the usage of the man's real last name? He is a faker, sorry if calling him out for being a faker rubs you the wrong way
DeleteSeems to me that Monte would split since his kid has now graduated HS, which is always an open door for parents to make a change. Plus, who wouldn't want to be in Chicago during the presidential election season? What fun!
DeleteI don't think anyone "hates" usage of Ronn's non-stage name. PLENTY of people have stage names. It's not fakery.
DeleteThe problem is--many people may not know who you are typing about when you continue your Lowenstein Campaign. At least your last post is clear that there are two names used.
Brian is great. He develops interesting angles on the topics, leans liberal but not far left, has opinions but respects the callers and is willing to change his mind when presented with new information or convincing arguments. I totally disagree with comments about "depth."
ReplyDeleteWon't miss Monty. The longer he discusses a topic, the less logical and coherent he becomes. Talk about no depth. He's a mile wide and an inch deep. He often makes no sense, even if I happen to agree with his basic opinion on a subject.
Don't know what's in Ronn's contract. However, unless there is a clause that allows them to take him off the air early, I can't understand why he would agree to leaving a few months early. Buyouts generally mean non-compete and non-disparagement. Why should he agree to that unless they offer him way more money than the economic value of his remaining contract?
Are you kidding? Copeland is a jackass to callers. Only Karel is worse to callers than the illegitimate black comedian. Copeland gives a caller 5 seconds to talk then he yells: "CUT TO THE CHASE". He is such a formulaic simpleton. He opens with a 15 minute monologue then if someone who disagrees calls him, he wants the person to counter in 20 seconds. Aside from his grating voice his use of: "that's what it is that it is" is a disservice to his race. It is fitting this junk show host got a "primetime" spot just when KGO became such a disaster. He is like a pilot who just got a promotion to fly the Hindenburg in mid flight...
Delete"He is like a pilot who just got a promotion to fly the Hindenburg in mid flight..."
DeleteNot bad. I tip my hat to you.
LOVE IT!!
DeleteRe: reply posted @ 8:53 pm
Delete"is a disservice to his race."
As Gil Gross used to say, "seriously?"
@11:40am, Gil Gross still says it on 910am, he also still does the loooooooong sighs and tells the bad jokes. You should tune in.
DeleteI agree with 853....if you speak bad English purposely it reflects badly on your people. Copie speaks fine English but he goes ebonics all of a sudden and it is awful
I have long been a Brian Copeland fan. During the year "plus," that it took KGOne to replace Bernie Ward, I enjoyed listening to ALL of the hosts who rotated in-and-out of the 10 PM time slot.
DeleteIn the end, while I knew that I would listen to whomever was chosen, I was giving Brian the "edge" to my hopes.
When I think of "what used to be," on KGOne, it's heartbreaking. Oh, that Luckoff, Swanson and Berry could reunite on 910! (Sigh)
3:12 good idea.
ReplyDeleteIn fact KGO can go truly green for all I care. Why not shut the transmitter off? Stop wasting electrical power. Shutting these stations down entirely would be the cheapest route for these mega corporate broadcasters.
Well, Brian Copeland is better than Tim Montemayor.
ReplyDeleteIf Tim gets the job, I'm going to set my radio on fire and throw it out the window.
I definitely understand!
DeleteRonn's replacement, with all that has been said about all of the people trying to get the slot, I would really love to see Melanie Morgan get the slot. At least we would know what is relly going on and not all this Bull Shit that Ronn and the rest put out. Melanie at least is the REAL DEAL.
ReplyDeleteThat is all we need in talk radio, another right wing host, like Rush, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram, Michael Savage and Tom Sullivan isen't enough, oh I forgot to mention Brian Sussman and Barbara Simpson. Armstrong and Getty lean right, but they are funny, and can be objective, Tom Sullivan is okay too, he is polite and let people who don't agree with him talk, given his politics I do think he tries to be fair. Although a week ago a caller called Obama a thug, and I thought he should have called him on that. You can disagree with the President, but to call him a thug, can't help thinking that is a racial thing. Anyway not another right wing talk show host, please.
Delete"Not Another right wing talk show host"...10:27.
DeleteDon't you get devious the plan? We've seen it all in action right here in San Francisco! Republican Big-Money owns the Radio Stations now and so, they put on their 'tool/puppets' blanketing our nation. Why, all the better to 'fool' listeners with their Right-Wing Talking-Point Hosts.
It was George Dubya who once let it slip out, when he said:
"We can fool some of the people all of the time...And those are the people we concentrate on".
Please American People...Don't be fooled!
Never really been a fan of Copie. When he was on Mornings on Two, he would do spots down in the FiDi and folks would just totally ignore him during his "man on the streets" takes. I would just cringe at how "fish out of water" he looked. Most folks would give a second or two to be on live TV. He's just not very engaging. His life story may be compelling- especially his current take on depression and I listened one Sunday morning as he was doing a story on his mom and her supposed life insurance that I thought was award winning worthy- but every day ? Meh. Maybe.
ReplyDeleteBrian Copeland being groomed for the 9:00-noon time slot at KGO is interesting to say the least.
ReplyDeleteIf anything, I thought Ronn Owens would negotiate some sort of extension even if it meant a pay cut.
One thing is for sure. The management at Cumulus has loyalty to no one on the air.
I have never seen one company clean house so quickly and forcefully.
The Game needs to become an AM station with stronger signal.
ReplyDeleteThe W's may not mean much but they fill the void during the winter seasons. The W's can help The Game if they become a better team next season or the season after.
I just want the old KGO back. Is that asking too much?
ReplyDeleteyes, unfortunately.
DeleteTo say that Brian went "Ballistic" over these comments and rumors is an understatement. Rich's statements regarding Ronn, KGO, and Brian's future CLEARLY hit a highly sensitive nerve with Copeland, and one readers comment was deleted for simply mentioning Mr. Liebermans' name. Touchy!
ReplyDeleteCopeland went ballistic where?
DeleteThis is Copeland's statement on his Facebook page, apparently Rich's blog pissef him off. Great work Rich!!!:
Delete"A number of you have sent me congratulatory emails today based on an erroneous report by a local blogger that I will be taking over "The Ronn Owens Program" on KGO Radio in the fall. While I usually do not respond to or read the crap that this lowlife puts out, the attention that this item has garnered has made it necessary for me to issue a statement. For the record, not a word of the blog concerning me or Ronn is true. I have had no conversations with management at KGO or anyplace else about Ronn leaving the station or about me changing my current time slot. What was written today is not only untrue, it's a bald faced lie. For some reason, this individual has a vendetta against Ronn and has apparently been slamming him for months. I know that Ronn doesn't read this garbage, but I DO know that a number of his friends have put together a list of all of the falsehoods that this individual has posted should Ronn decide to sue for libel and a deliberate attempt to try and undermine his ability to earn a living in this market. Ronn Owens has been one of my best friends for twenty years and I respect the way he has tried to take the high road with all this. I don't know why. This blogger is simply evil."
Is it possible that Rich is being fed some lies regarding the KGO situation? I believe that Rich has good sources, but he may also have some bad ones. He's a controversial guy and has both admirers and enemies perhaps.
DeleteHowever, the people who are angry with Rich do not understand that he is about the only game in town as far as information about what Cumulus is up to. We, the loyal listeners, have been disregarded and ignored. Even when the big coup took place in December, the information was very limited and the media was strangely quiet about the whole thing.
As far as Ronn's plans, it doesn't make sense that he would be paid to leave early since that will further lower 810's listenership and why would they spend the money? If Ronn leaves early, it's because Ronn has other plans.
Methinks Brian Copeland protests too much. We'll know in 90 days or less whether or not we'll hear the following on a weekday at around 9am: "Hello again this is Brian Copeland talking..."
DeleteRonn sue for libel? Really Copie, you need to get ahold of yourself. It does not take a great legal mind to understand that the truth is a defense to any allegation of libel. And IMHO Ronn could not possibly lodge a lawsuit without losing more than he could ever hope to gain. I mean, what will he offer as damages? He can no longer get a Bay Area gig for over $1 million a year because of Rich's blog? Really?
DeleteRich should be so lucky if Ronn Owens were to sue him for libel. Rich will get be tons of publicity for his blog. Get real, Ronn and Copie. Don't play poker because you two don't bluff well!
DeleteBut just in case Ronn has money to burn and sue you, Rich, do you have a Defense Fund set up?
Wow look out Brian Copeland is mad now.
DeleteJump back Copeland you are one mean dude.
Copeland why all the threats? Why don't you just discuss this on your radio show.
And Romie, I'm out.
Brian Copeland's threat . . . censorship.
Delete9:03pm is right on, it is laughable that of all people, a comedian and talk show host wants to censor Rich's free speech. Copeland would have thrown Lenny Bruce in the slammer! Hilarious
DeleteSo if Rich's scenario about Ronn is correct, does this mean Ronn retires or waits until after January and possibly shows up on another Bay Area radio station...say 910?
ReplyDeleteI think that there are hundreds of thousands of us who feel exactly the same...
ReplyDeleteCopeland is a thin skinned jerk and a FASCIST. I can not believe that he, as a talk show host and comedian is trying to suppress Rich Lieberman's free speech via a not so veiled threat of libel lawsuit!!! Hey Dopey, it must piss you off you can't simply hit the dump button on this blog or its outstanding commenters.
ReplyDeleteI like Copie and he is probably just being protective of his friend which is something many of us would do. He is looking at this situation from a very different perspective and it's understandable. He's heard that Rich says crappy things about Ronn and I even think that Rich goes too far with this, but I still appreciate much of what Rich provides us. It is possible that Rich was misinformed on this one and I'm sure he is checking this out.
DeleteOh..and 8:53...the name calling and bitterness makes your post ridiculous. Please make your point in a more adult manner...or don't...suit yourself.
I find it very amusing that Copeland and Owens did not say a thing when their colleagues were fired, yet they both go ballistic when reports of their OWN job situations surface. As to 11:10s post, read your dear Copie's words. He is a fascist pig for threatening Mr. Lieberman's free speech rights.
DeleteI remember Brian saying on his first show after all the firings that he was pleased that management valued him enough to keep him on the air. That alone turned me off. Was he implying the others were fired because management did not value them? I used to listen to Brian regularly, but haven't since. Besides that snotty comment, they kept changing his hours to times that I don't listen to talk radio.
Delete4:23...I know that you believe that you are thinking intelligently and rationally, but I don't agree and also think your fascist pig comment is foolish.
Delete8:39: I don't give a damn whether you agree with me or not. I am simply reading Copeland's statement and he deserves to be called worse than a fascist pig
DeleteCopey - the one guy who can talk about racism more than Ronn Owens.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: were Vern Glenn and Brian Copeland seperated at birth?
I was listening to Copeland a few years back on KGO, and there was this classic PC-thing going on in his studio about "interracial dating / marriage".
Copeland, his call screener, and his Producer all spoke at one time or another. All are black. And all were (are) married to white women, or were dating white women. 3 for 3. Then one of the other 2 guys mentions that his first wife "just happened to be white". And Copeland had also mentioned that his first wife "happened to be white". So three African American men, 5 relationships, all with white women, and it was all just coincidence...???
Like others have mentioned, Copey, not a very deep analysis.
Never understood why Tim Montemayor is on the radio. His voice grates on the ears, as he seldom talks into the mike. He shouts into it, sounding aggrieved. His recent tirade against SF Mayor Lee's staff was laughable for its impotent rage. I listen to him hoping he'll have a worthwhile topic. But he seldom does, so I end up grumbling, Shut up!, and closing the browser window.
ReplyDeleteI like Copie but prefer listening to Pat Thurston, even though she is far more liberal than me. She has a warm voice and obviously puts thought into her topics and questioning of guests. Christine can be such a bitch on the radio; but she can also be insightful and funny.
Honestly I wish John Rothmann was back on KGO. Wouldn't mind listening to Stacy Taylor and Peter B. Collins again as well.
9:25 I totally agree with you on Monte. I so hope that he is leaving. His loud, intense presentation dwarfs the quality of his thinking, IMO. I actually prefer Copies voice to Pat's. She can be interesting and then she gets all stirred up and insists on her point of view in a almost shrill manner and I have to change stations. Christine is awesome. Her bitchiness cracks me up and pisses me off depending on the topic. None of the 3, Copie, Pat, Christine should be on every a.m. It would be too much all for different reasons, but I definitely would like more of Christine. I miss John Rothmann along with the others that were sent packing in December. I think KGO is doomed once Ronn is gone...actually already a crappy station.
DeleteI agree, John Rothmann doesen't have to be on KGO any bay area station would do. Stacy Taylor and Peter B are both so much better than Monte, and the comedian, also agree with you about Christine, I find her hard to listen to if I don't agree with her, she is fine when I agree with her. John, Gene and Gil I can listen to even if I disagree with them
ReplyDeleteI think Rich is probably way off here on all of this and thats why Cope issued those comments. I'm guessing all of this is really insulting to Ronn and that Cope wants to set the record straight, so Ronn doesn't think Cope is going behind his back. It seems like the writing is probably on the wall for Ronn since everyone else was let go. If Ronn gets let go in November, December, or January then Rich will claim he was right yet he won't be because everyone knows Ronn is gone eventually. Rich is predicting it's going to rain in the Outer Sunset!
ReplyDeleteAs for the hosts on the station they are all pretty bad right now on the weekends except Pat Thurston is not bad. She is not always my cup of tea but at least there is passion and information, but it would be nice if she was on at the same time all the time. Cope is decent but nothing that exciting and he won't move ratings. Monty seems like he is just filling space for them because he is a really weak host. And they had a woman on in his place this weekend who is actually worse than him! She had one of the worst shows I have ever heard in the city! Who is she and who heard that? The old hosts are all gone which is not the worst thing but its definitely better than all of this is.
I still think Cope was right for doing what he did and that Rich will not be right about all of this stuff.
Boy the racism here is so thick you need hip boots. Copeland is not incompetent. It just rankles a lot of folks here that he is getting a pretty good gig. Afraid to fire him because he's black? You people are just mad your closed enclave of white talking heads are gone and now you might be stuck listening to someone who doesn't look like you. I've listened to Thurston and Craft and can't stand either. Talk about a voice that is annoying, that would be Craft. The thought of either them on every day for three hours is nauseating. I'll give Copeland a try. If he can add some diversity of perspective, it would be a welcome change. Guess you haven't heard that the world is getting browner.
ReplyDeleteRonn will start a daily two hour podcast ala Adam Carolla/Penn Jillette as soon as he leaves KGO. You can do high quality podcast from anywhere in the world all you need is an Ipad and connection. Of course sponsored by sleep train.
ReplyDeleteCopie is not getting a daily KGO show 9-12 is going to Jerry Rivers.
@Anonymous 2:52 Gawd. Stop with the racism card, already. That's not it at all. Like Ronn, Copeland is fluff, mental kleenex. Lightweight. For these challenging times, with America on the financial brink, more substance would be nice. Ronn's talking about trendy restaurants, is, so one percent it's sickening. Why not do a bit on kick-a$$ diners that deliver genuine food for a fair price? Doesn't Ronn have a favorite Taqueria that he patronizes? Puh-leeze.
ReplyDeleteYou have to wonder why any of these guys/gals would even want to work for KGO anymore. THe ownership is garbage and the angry listening audience has dwindled so much as to be insignificant.
ReplyDeleteAny link to Copey's statement?
ReplyDeleteWhat was the name given to Ronn on this blog... McTopic? hahhha
I like Copey, he's just not as solid as a Burns or Wattenburg; yet better than Bernie Ward, Craft, and Thurston. I preferred him for the 7-10 PM slot over another 50s-60s, liberal, white male, straight, Jewish host. I think KGO already had one or wo (or ten) of those around.
The statement is posted in a previous comment....
DeleteAnonymous June 13, 2012 9:25 AM, I have to agree with EVERYTHING you said.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Anonymous June 13, 2012 4:30 AM, me too. Me too.
This rumour is obviously false.
ReplyDeleteKGO has switched format.
Ronnnnnnn had a contract so they couldn't fire him and that's the only reason the station has not gone all news during the day.
I believe the rumor is true and the Copeland reaction is confirmation that it is true. By the information coming out now, it jeopordizes the move because people react (negatively for the most part) and the element of surprise is taken out. Copeland is angry because he likely will not get the job he wanted...keep up the great work Rich
Delete@2:52 I'm black and not a fan of Copeland's most of the time ( He does shine here and there). Equality comes when a black guy can be found to mediocre just as anyone else can.
ReplyDeleteRonn is, in legal terms, a public figure. A public figure must show "actual malice," in that false information was published either with knowledge that it was false or in "reckless disregard for the truth." That is an almost impossible standard to meet. Even beyond that, it must be proven that there were actual monetary damages. Of course, the subject can thunder and threaten and beat their chest all they want for intimidation, but it's just a lot of smoke.
ReplyDeleteCopeland is as good as anyone else on the radio. I stopped listening to KGO ages ago because there was nothing that reflected a point of view outside of ivory tower white males. Brian Copeland used to have a pretty good show on Sunday mornings but it became as white bread as the rest so I stopped listening. I don't get how he is worse than anyone else. It is disgusting that people here hold revolting bigot Michael Savage up as a paragon of great radio in the same breath they are talking about how incompetent Copeland is. As for the alleged black person who posted earlier, Copland isn't any more or less mediocre than Owens, who I cannot bear to listen to.
ReplyDeleteMichael Savage has the best talk show period, end of story. He is the best entertainer with the most depth. He is a showman of the highest order, very quick on his toes. His shows this week have been great. Gene Burns is the best talk show HOST I've heard, in terms of debating callers and having a very finely textured show. He is not one to shout and appreciates nuance. The complete opposite of Brian Copeland, who is a brute compared to either Savage or Burns. Copeland is neither an entertaining host nor an informed one willing to debate. This is why he is so short with callers. Listen to his show, he does the monologue repeating the same three or four points incessantly and then during the call in segment he bullies callers, and yells the same points ad nauseum. It is like he reads and follows the corporate talk show host booklet. Only the NY comedian is a worse host than Copeland. To say Copeland is as good as anyone is completely inaccurate. He is a lightweight compared to Stacy Taylor, Peter B Collins, Pat Thurston and Christine Craft. Even Karel is better when he leaves the boring husband and gay stories at the door. Copeland is on par with Montemayor and Spencer Hughes. Serviceable fill ins when no one else is available. His petty attempt to intimidate Rich Lieberman knocks him down a few spots in my mind. His one "man" show should be renamed: a genuine black jackass
DeleteKGO 810 radio is a white peoples station, so why do blacks and others comment on it?
ReplyDeleteYep, no racism here. All you negroes, go away and let the white guys have their fun. You are not wanted on their airwaves or on this blog.
DeleteHey, don't be mean to those oh-so-well-meaning liberals... they had a black guy on in the middle of the night for over 20 years... when no one could hear him! Ha! Typical.
ReplyDeleteBut KABC down south had a black man, conservative, on at prime time!!
when no one could hear him? you aren't the brightest bulb. At night, when the skip kicks in, KGO is heard over much of the Western US,Canada, Mexico, even Hawaii, and that's just the broadcast signal. You may not have liked what he had to say, but he kicked nightime butt.Ray T is no cookie-cutter voice.
DeleteMy issue with Copeland is that he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Time and again he either doesn't get his facts straight, or he lets callers get by with something that isn't true. Perfect example is one day last year he was going on and on about how Clinton was the first president to be impeached. Did you ever take U.S. History in high school, Brian? At least Ronn, Gene, Gil, and Rothman are as smart as most of their guests and most of their callers.
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