Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Why Michael Savage should be back on SF Radio

My interview on Michael Savage last week, (http://www.trn1.com/savage_lieberman_interview) was met with some severe criticism from many people, including some of my most ardent fans. I understand, to a degree, your anger, but a lot of it is misdirected.

I'm an unabashed fan of Savage. As I have said, and told him directly on the air, I don't agree with a lot of his politics, but clearly, if you've ever listened to Savage, politics is but a small portion of the bulk of his performance, and clearly, Savage's main template is entertainment. Sure, he riffs a lot on Obama, he often goes ga-ga over liberal minutia and media, but the meat of his show is largely non-political.

Currently, Savage cannot be heard on SF radio. He's on KSTE in Sacramento, (where you can listen to his streaming on-line show) and he's big across the country. He just passed Sean Hannity as the second most-listened-to radio talk host in the country, (behind Rush Limbaugh).

Savage is a load. An often funny, bizarre, entertaining and meaty load who is the only character left on radio that makes many of us laugh. Some have called him downright genius. His monologues can range from haute Chinese food, Italian pasta, and the risks of a salty diet to his steady friend, his beloved poodle, Teddy.

He's not for everybody, then again, neither am I. When Savage goes off, he's often brilliantly vile and disgusting, in a creative way. Sure, it's like the accident on the freeway that everyone stops to take a look at, but it makes for entertaining radio. I'd rather listen to Savage rant while I find the meanderings of Randi Rhodes about as exciting as a C-SPAN2 re-run. Book notes, Savage ain't. Even Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin and Ingraham recite the same boring repetitious GOP talking points day in and day out. It doesn't move the needle--Savage does.

I told Savage that he should be back on Bay Area radio. He should. Yes, he's difficult to work for, with, and he's a hornet's nest with program syndicators, but that's their problem. Savage's ratings are off the chart. So he's occasionally a loose cannon, but he makes for impactful, enlightening, and provocative radio. Is it offensive at times? Sure. And that's why I love it. At least it's transparent, unlike, say, a Sussman on KSFO who couches his banality and tries to conceal his own form of bigotry--Savage is way out, front and center. He doesn't cower and hide, for better or worse.

Here's hoping a SF Bay Area outlet pick up the "Savage Nation." It is some of the funniest and most potent broadcast content left on the dial.

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57 comments:

  1. "Savage is a load."

    He certainly is that. A large, steaming load very much like the ones I clean up after my dog deposits them in the yard.

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  2. To each his own, Rich. For me, one of the reasons I used to listen to KGO (and still listen to KQED) is reasoned discussion without schtick. I can't handle Howard Stern, either, although I am told he is very brilliant...

    For super comedy that riffs off current affairs, I prefer Jon Stewart. Nobody does it better!

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  3. I love Savage. Don't always agree with him but look forward to the stories about NY, pasta, restaurants, natural healing, etc... He can make me laugh like crazy. I pick him up on KSTE so don't miss him not being on a bay area station. It's SF's loss.

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  4. If you like racial bigotry, crude sexism and demonizing of decent Americans, Michael Savage is the real deal. A full pant load.

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  5. On a drive to Sacramento around 2 pm, I happened upon Savage. He seemed insane to me, non-sensical. I changed to something else. Definitely not my cup of tea. He is a fear-mongering, hate-filled racist. Your attraction to him speaks volumes about you, Rich. Interesting.

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  6. Different strokes for different folks... last I looked the Constitution guaranteed certain freedoms.. and political correctness aside.. if you don't like it.. don't tune it.. or watch... but Rich is right.. provocative sells.. and as long as our remarkable leaders in the Senate and House don't screw it up.. Freedom of Speech is still ours...

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  7. Hi Rich: You've been a terrific and valuable source of information, and I have no qualms of you wanting Savage on the radio in the Bay Area. But---the show you did with Savage was...curious. I kept wondering, 'Why is Rich on this show?' 'What is being addressed here?' I winced...when it was over. I thought about it and wondered why no content was addressed. You only threw roses at him. It seemed all a little shallow. And, I'm a reader/supporter of your blog/am thankful for your inside info/reports on KGO (which seem to be the ONLY source for consistent updates), etc. But, that was just, well, weird. My analogy would be a blushing teen who met their idol and was star-struck. Wishing you happy holidays and more good reporting, Woodstein

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  8. Someone called him "downright genius"?
    In what context?

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  9. Michael Savage is a Hate Monger.
    Why you continue to promote this guy is unbelievable.

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  10. I stream Savage everyday. Every minute I listen to him I'm not tuned into a local SF station. It's their loss.

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  11. Michael Savage is not my cup of tea but we live in a free country and he has a right to express his views as disgusting as they are.

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  12. Wow some really intelligent liberal trash talk guys! LOL
    If you want to see bigotry, look at the 'man' in the mirror.
    Rich's interview was very good and accurately described Savage's show. You insane libs can't see past your own prejudices. Of course the second most popular radio should be on in the Bay Area. If you don't like don't listen. Even I tuned in to Green 960 when I need a LOL or a fix of left- wing hate. Like NorMAN, who was saying last week, when he hears of lobbyists, he reaches for his pistol.
    cheers....

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  13. Hi Rich, thanks for your 810 updates. I agree, Savage is a national treasure, a performing artist. What I want to know now is about ksfo.
    I so miss Lee Rodgers in the morning and his hand maiden, Melanie Morgan. I know Lee is retired. Is there any hope that Melanie will be back on ksfo or some other Bay Area station?

    Now for my big question; do you hear any 'whispers' that Brian Sussman may be replaced as host of the morning show? Brian is competent, and good in his own way, but he either spends too much time on Global Warming or just sounds perpetually worried all the time.
    I'm sure Officer Vic is ready to bail, unless the pay is that great. They are both fine people, but somewhat boring and lukewarm.

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  14. Rich, I like Savage, much like you he's refreshing...

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  15. The one thing that the left and the right agree upon is that they don't want the views of those they disagree with to get any airtime or audience. It's as if they are afraid that the other side's views are too persuasive and that they would lose numbers because of it.

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  16. I've been an avid radio listener for 25 years. No one can make me laugh as much as Savage. He has great comedic timing and his sarcasm is awesome. The guy is a great showman alas Taliafero. Not sure why people get all crazy with the name calling. He has a Phd, he is highly educated and he can delve into esoteric subject matter. I wish he would do more of that but as he always says, his audience demands some "meat and potato": which at this time is Obama bashing. He also has been critical of every Repub candidate. I was laughing hysterically last week when he spent a whole segment bashing Gingrich via his book The Political Zoo. I am a Berkeley liberal and listen to his show constantly. Great job Rich!

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  17. Thanks for the link, Rich. Been waiting to see it without having to subscribe to The Savage Nation podcasts. Love reading your blog, and you've become a 'must read' in this house. I also don't agree with Savage on most occasions, but I've laughed out loud at some of his rants.

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  18. @11:55--"The one thing that the left and the right agree upon is that they don't want the views of those they disagree with to get any airtime or audience."

    I don't think there is agreement at all. Precisely the reason former KGO fans are so aghast is that we miss the forum that brought many sides to the table, through the call-in's.

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  19. Sorry Rich, I agree with you most of the time but not on Savage. When I was still commuting in a van the driver happened to have Savage on the day that Herb Caen passed away. While I personally was not a big Caen fan the vulgarity and cruelty that Savage used in his rants were way over the top. He could not understand why people were so upset over the passing of a drunkard, etc. I felt very bad for any of Caen's family members or close friends that might have happened to be listening. There is no way that I would ever listen to Savage.

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  20. ONLY because YOU asked faithful readers to listen to him did I try. When he was on midday on KTRB was it?..before A's games.
    I heard plenty of right wing political views,not much entertainment. He hated "La Raza"..but was fine with "The chosen people"..and that was typical of Savage. What was of benefit to him was right,what he didn't understand or could use was wrong.
    Funny,he was only against the rightwing grain on Nature-he was right when he said "We need laws to stop man from stripping the forests and killing every last animal".."If man could, he would cut down the last ooga -booga tree"..so,WHY he understands that, but not businessman greed,is a paradox huh?
    "S"

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  21. Dear 10:44,
    This is not an issue about freedom of speech, much as you would like to make it one. No one is claiming that we shouldn't have..and cherish..freedom of speech.
    Michael Savage can rant all he likes, but when he does so on the radio FOR MONEY, the companies that sponsor him are associating themselves as well as their reputations with hate speech. When Rich Lieberman promotes Michael Savage he ends up associating himself with the same bigotry.

    Free speech is a great thing, but it also includes the right to dissent. I don't listen to Michael Savage and whenever I can I speak out against him.

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  22. I would not listen to Savage either, 1:19. I too remember cruel rants. I can't even bear to hear his voice.

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  23. There are few constants in this world - however, one of them is if a person is an asshole on the air, they are probably the same in person. I don't care if Savage has high ratings, like most of his right wing buddies, he is an asshole. I can't think of any other way to describe him.

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  24. He's right most of the time and entertaining most of the time. And your crowd really hates him. That is a ringing endorsement even tho' they hate every one who does not toe the PC line. But even his schtick gets old. I can only take so much polemics. At least with sports talk there is something a little different every day and a few good men to listen to. Not to mention Ann Killion.

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  25. Julie Mendelsohn said...
    "I also don't agree with Savage on most occasions, but I've laughed out loud at some of his rants."

    Ditto.

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  26. In 30 years of listening to KGO (until three weeks ago), only once did I write to KGO management and ask that they remove a certain host from the air. That was when Michael Savage had a regular slot on KGO in his early days of broadcasting.

    There were two reasons I couldn't stand him:
    1) He was dishonest. He would lie and distort facts to make his point.
    2) He ranted. I don't enjoy listening to ranters, whether on the right (Savage, Rush Limbaugh) or the left (Karel, Ray Taliaferro).

    That being said, I don't care whether he's on the air, but I would prefer for him to be on a station that I never listen to.

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  27. Are you and Palo Alto the most overly sensitive people on the planet? Lighen up, he's a radio talk show host and Savage does the edutainment game as well as anyone.

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  28. Without doubt the most talented man on radio today. Can't stand his politics 99% of the time, but if you actually listen to the show.

    You will find it's the best entertainment anywhere in radio.

    Period.

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  29. KSCO booted him because the advertisers fled like rats from a sinking ship. They liked him, they just couldn't afford the financial hit...ratings be damned.

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  30. People close to him, thought Hitler was entertaining too...

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  31. Savage carries water for no-one, especially either party. Mercurial, short, quick, he berates his own staff for minor gaffe's. He's musically stuck in this 50's, but uses Iron Maiden as bumper music. Hates liberals but is an ardent supporter of the environment. Loves guns but isn't an NRA toadie. Strong nutritional education, with a Phd in Epidemiology from UC Berkeley. Loves Italian, Chinese or Basque food, but abhors mediocrity or pretentiousness from the kitchen. An acquired taste for sure, does very few interviews, usually riffing on life and it's foibles.

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  32. Sorry Rich, He's not my cup of tea.

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  33. I think the people who dislike him take him waaaaaay too seriously. This shit is entertainment, don't take it so personal. I am reminded of one of my sociology professors at Cal. He mentioned Maury Povich and people of his ilk (I would put Savage and Limbaugh in the same category) and said, an educated person can recognize this shit for what it is: lots of hyperbole and entertainment, but the problem are the uneducated idiots who quote these guys verbatum. Personally I enjoy Savage because I can see through his charade and laugh. It is entertainment after all. The buck toothed rightwingers wearing overalls are the ones who worry me. They take in the information as gospel. Therein lies the problem.

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  34. Savage as entertainment? I guess so if you like dog fights and boxing. If you haven't seen by now, Rich, this area is longing and aching for the educated and constructive dialogue that was KGO. That is what this market wants. It should be obvious to any casual observer by now.

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  35. 12:08 pm has it right, the guy is funny and esoteric. But most of the little lefties are
    too soft for his treatment, they wince, and
    blink in the eye of a genius. They cop out
    with the racist tag because it's easy to
    simply dismiss him. Now as a person he's
    a repugnant asshole, but that isn't the
    point, you soft headed fucking liberals
    actually believe you were hearing all points
    of view on KGO? Horse shit. All the full time
    talents were left to Moderate Liberal, who was
    the conservative? You fucking hypocrites, liars, frauds, & misfires. You are so far left you can't see straight. May you be locked in a room for 48 hours with an endless loop of Savage shows you cowards.

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  36. Savavage is truly talented. But he is not a "Talk show host" as you would call Gene Burnes a talk show host. Totally different. Savage is an entertainer or "infotainer" as I like to call people like him.

    He has great ideas, but stirs up hell with extreme political gasoline. His stories(non political) are the best! he can capture the little interesting things in life and make you laugh out loud! Very interesting and funny. But his politics discussion, NO WAY FOR ME! But I can still listen a lot because I view him as an "infotainer"

    Savage is the right wing equilivant to RAY TALIAFARO. Ray is also very intelligent, funny, witty, and tells great stories, but his politics, NO WAY! he is exteme to get ratings.. Ray is an "infotainer"

    I certaunly dont want too many infotainers, right or left, on the air, THEY DO NOT HAVE HONEST DISSCUSSION, they entertain.

    I WANT GENE BURNES OR JOHN ROTHMAN. Openminded and critical thinkers will to look at all sides of a topic, regardless of politics. These guys get to the issues intelectually.

    So, whatever your politics, realize the difference between infotainment and real topic discussion.

    So, a little fun with Savage wont hurt, it can add some spice..

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  37. Has anybody listened to Ray Taliafero? Hes a left wing Michael Savage. He rants, insulsts, and make cruel tastless comments.

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  38. Hey Rich...do you really find Savage that entertaining? I think it's important to have all sides of the political spectrum represented on our air waves, but if you're going to take an extreme point of view, (as Savage loves to do) he should at least try to do it with a modicum of intelligence and fairness.

    Savage is simply making a lot of noise just to be seen and heard and make money, and it's really kind of sad. Those who actually do more than just chuckle during his angry-man rants, really need to wake up and start reading and researching their topics, because this guy's (and other talkshow hosts like him..whether right or left wing) a big reason why this country has become so 'dumbed down,' and why we elect nit-wits and neophytes to important political offices.

    OH, BUT EXCUSE ME I FORGOT...HE'S AN ENTERTAINER, NOT A SOCIAL COMMENTATOR!

    And I also guess I forgot that now in the 21st century, with deregulation and the FCC impotent, that Radio is all about ratings and ad dollars, not public service. Sorry I'm so naive to actually still hold out the hope that a few lonely commercial stations might feel some sort of community obligation to keep the people who listen to their stations informed in a dignified, credible, and responsible manner!

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  39. Enough already.
    Must he call SF San Fran-Sicko?

    I mean come on...

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  40. Few of Savage's current audience probably remember, he got his start on none other than KGO. Back then, he was a considerably mellower listen; still an old beatnik at heart. Even when he was on KSFO/pre-syndication he billed himself as the "compassionate conservative" and even accused Bush Sr of stealing the line from him.

    Of course, once he found a national audience he found that Savage sold, and the more extreme the better. He was Tea Party before there was a Tea Party. (Paul Revere society...)

    The 'Savage' persona is as much an artificial creation as the recipe for Rockstar Energy Drink (the other family business) As long as you keep that in mind, he can be entertaining.

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  41. One's free speech is another's reckless rhetoric. Both left-rooted radio and right-rooted radio shut out dissenting callers & bloggers all the time. Weiner/Savage does the same. Weiner began to bore me 20 years ago when he unleashed his vendetta after his (ex-?) friend Bill Graham lost his life in the Napa copter crash after he left Huey Lewis & The News' Hard At Play show at Shoreline in 1991. I vowed never to hear such boring tantrums like that again. I do admit though that if a zealot is going to win over the airwaves, better that it's Oscar Meyer Weiner than "The Mannity" and definitely better him than (Pass)Gas(bag) Limbaugh climbing the charts. Still, all those on the other side who find him entertaining - even those on the opposing side - are pathetic. Go find something more valuable for pleasure than this eternally loud bore!

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  42. You love this literal sociopath but crank on every little move that the new all news KGO makes. Uh huh. I guess that tells us everything we need to know about the wisdom, common sense and value of your critique of what is good for Bay Area radio.

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  43. I admire you Rich. You stand for something.

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  44. Another constant in the world; the most "tolerant" and "open-minded" among us, the liberals, (or progressives, or whatever they call themselves today) spewing profanity and insults towards anyone who disagrees with them. Keep it classy libs, you guys never fail to disappoint! Tolerant and open-minded indeed!

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  45. Rich, I agree with you about Savage. I've been listening to him from his first gig (1994) on KGO to KSFO than to KNEW and now on KSTE. He is by far the most intelligent and educated personality on the radio waves. Just as I would have guessed, many "progressives" don't want him on the Bay Area airwaves, I thought liberals want to be inclusive and broad-minded.??

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  46. I've tried to listen to Savage, but not my cup of tea. His grating voice is tough to listen too, and like most other right-wing hate mongers, I find it unlistenable and bad radio. I'll take Bill Press, Randi Rhodes or Norman Goldman any day over him and his ilk.

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  47. That great journalistic writing by KRON: Justine Waldmann said that Michael Weiner had a baby boy and that Weiner is known as the congressman who resigned for sending twitter photos of "His package".
    So subtle,and yet descriptive..

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  48. Ok,its an hour and a half later-about-and Justine does the same story,only its changed from "...His package" to "Sexually explicit photos".
    They do read this blog...

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  49. Let me tell you why I don't like Michael Weiner as a human being, despite the fact that he's a good broadcaster.

    On January 31st, 2000, Weiner was working nights on KSFO. Earlier that afternoon, Alaskan Airlines Flight 261 out of Mexico was heading for San Francisco when it crashed into the ocean off the Ventura County coastline. One of the pasengers on that flight was Cynthia Oti, age 44, who had hosted the "Financial Fitness" program from 6-7 PM on KSFO. Cynthia has been doing that and other similar shows on the station for years, and was truly beloved by everyone who knew her.

    Cynthia was returning from a weekend vacation that day and was supposed to do her show that evening. It was known that afternoon that she had died.

    Now, "Savage" had worked the time slot immediately following hers on KSFO for some time. After Jack Swanson came on air at 6 PM and announced that Cynthia had probably been killed, the station played a recording of an old show of Cynthia's. Savage then began his show at 7 PM and simply IGNORED Cynthia's tragic death -- he didn't even mention her name. After about an hour (during which KSFO no doubt received many outraged phone calls), Savage FINALLY mentioned Oti's apparent passing, but almost like an afterthought.

    THAT told me everything I ever needed to know about Michael Weiner.

    P.S. The next morning, KSFO morning talk hosts Lee Rodgers and Melanie Morgan gave a very moving tribute to Cynthia. It was the only time I'd ever heard either of them openly weep on the air.

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  50. MICHAEL SAVAGE...INTELLIGENT?....ENTERTAINING?

    I guess you could make an arguement for that
    if he actually believed in the tripe he's constantly spewing. But it sounds as if he's had some bad breaks in life (probably no one with any self-esteem wants to be associated personally with this guy), so he's probably angry, lonely, and lashing out of the world.

    It's sad, because even though he's getting paid a fair amount for his 'entertaining personality'
    and 'everyman views' (that's a scary thought..but that's America in the 21st century!) he's probably like a lot of bi-polar people we have all known over the years:
    angry, scared, and confused!

    So why do people waste time listening to these kind of 'nuts' on the radio? I guess they must find in him some kind of kindred spirit;
    a dysfunctional person who perhaps bring out of the angry side of all of us! I guess most of us are angry at the world, and Michael Savage
    speaks for us! (sad thought!)

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  51. I'm convinced conservatives listen to Savage to remind themselves why they're conservative.
    And liberals listen to Savage to remind themselves why they are liberals.

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  52. So subtle, and yet so wrong. His name is Anthony Weiner.

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  53. Yes, the commenter is correct: Michael Savage is every bit as "difficult" off the air as on. When he was on KSFO -- before he was syndicated, and before he was on and then bombed off television, back when he was relatively humble -- he used to chew threw 3 or 4 producers a year. Working with the man every day was like being in a bad marriage -- one day it was all good, the next day the yelling and screaming would start. He would throw people out of the studio. Then it was all hearts and roses. Rinse and repeat. I watched several friends go through that. I can barely imagine what he must be like to work with now.

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  54. I guess radio is a 'poor man's' version of entertainment, and Michael Savage is just that...a cheap entertainer who prods, pulls, cajoles, accuses, obfuscates, and eventually defecates on those things he finds 'offensive' (which is anything or anyone who disagrees with his point of view.)

    He kind of reminds me of the character the actor Eric Bogosian portrayed in that movie 'Talk Radio" back in the 1980s. A troubled, lonely, egotistical overgrown child who will probably end up alone and miserable at the end of his life.
    His life can best be summed up by that idiotic bumper sticker from the 1980s: "He who dies at the end of the game with the most toys wins!"

    Why do people waste their time listening to his bile? I guess their lives must either be boring
    or frustrating...but if you're bored or frustrated, how does this guy make you feel any better about life?

    His dim views of many of the people who populate this great country make me wonder if he really cares about America. Perhaps he should read a little more history and he'd learn that he's no different than other braying, bloviating fools like hate monger Father Coughlan in the 1930s,
    who loved ripping FDR, or more recently, angry middle aged guys such as Joe Pyne (remember him on LA TV and radio back in 1960s and 70s?) and
    Pat Michaels (right wing nut case on KNEW radio in the late 1960s and then 'converted' left wing
    dingbat on Orange County radio in the 1970s.)

    But I guess he must be doing something right because all of us who are adding to this post are
    reacting! So keep screaming Michael....there are plenty of us fellow nut cases out here in the ether who seem willing enough to listen to your
    rants for at least a few minutes.
    (I think we all must have some masochistic tendencies!)

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  55. Why is Savage no longer on 1080 AM in Rochester, New York. I miss him unbelievably so, I live 40 miles outside of Rochester and spend my entire drive to or from Wyoming NY listening to Savage, until for no reason - gone. He is brilliant, angers me when he doesn't listen to a caller and disconnects (I always want to call him and give him a piece of my mind), stimulates me with his stories of youth, and I fully agree we should all sign a petition requesting that England remove his name from any derogatory lists. Give us Savage back, and if he left Rochester on his own accord, shame on you Mr. Savage. Would you take a bottle from a baby?

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