tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post9213789570307393178..comments2024-03-29T08:31:43.818-07:00Comments on RICH LIEBERMAN 415 MEDIA: The KTVU Conundrum; Even if Bay Area Media Ignores the Asiana Airline 'Namegate', I Will Not; UPDATE: Chronicle/SF Gate Runs 415 Media ExcluRich Liebermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18174495340920055435noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-69565210151002166942013-08-07T20:53:18.316-07:002013-08-07T20:53:18.316-07:00This is an EXCELLENT post 5:57 PM. Admit your mis...This is an EXCELLENT post 5:57 PM. Admit your mistake, apologize, move on, and the story<br />goes away. If Mark McGwire did this, he would be in the Hall of Fame!!! In so many arenas<br />today, there is no accountability and no ownage of responsibility, both of which are red flags<br />for lack of character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-6756850113396326562013-08-07T20:47:07.137-07:002013-08-07T20:47:07.137-07:00Just the opposite -- 80% WOULD have noticed them...Just the opposite -- 80% WOULD have noticed them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-46927140005238439742013-08-07T20:19:08.822-07:002013-08-07T20:19:08.822-07:00http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/4-5-ktvu-...http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/4-5-ktvu-staffers-prank-pilot-names-broadcast-report-article-1.1420574Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-55794405256052005282013-08-07T20:06:10.854-07:002013-08-07T20:06:10.854-07:00It's beyond the Bay Area now-New York Daily Ne...It's beyond the Bay Area now-New York Daily News (story, what story?)<br /><br />http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/4-5-ktvu-staffers-prank-pilot-names-broadcast-report-article-1.1420574Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-44727323874427492112013-08-07T18:33:38.375-07:002013-08-07T18:33:38.375-07:00Bay Area Media is not covering it because the indu...Bay Area Media is not covering it because the industry is relatively small and somewhat close-knit. The other stations may be competitors, but a lot of the people that staff the newsrooms come from those competitors. This goes for both on-air staff and those who write/produce the newscasts. They may be laughing at KTVU as a station, especially after the bragging promos. However, they have friends there that they are all hoping are not part of it and probably thinking how easily it could have been them, at their station.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-70929882617009087552013-08-07T17:57:10.493-07:002013-08-07T17:57:10.493-07:00How ironic that the media demands accountability f...How ironic that the media demands accountability from politicos, people who run companies, athletes and those who've f***ed up. However, KTVU, the "legacy" news outfit, tries to duck and cower, hide under a cloak of secrecy and pretend it never happened.<br /><br />KTVU could've come clean, provided the details of their big boner, apologized, described future steps they would take to prevent such stupidity in the future and it would've been done. However, because the GM tries to run and hide, the news director clams up and the rank and file can't say a thing, the story has taken a life of its own.<br /><br />This story ain't dead. We still don't know all of the details. Until then, Mr. Lieberman should pursue this thing. And if you don't like it, don't read his blog or gloss over this story. This is a story. It's also a sign of what's going on in America: lack of accountability. Everyone wants to blame someone else or pretend nothing's happening. No wonder America is hated around the world.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-27905277793063868292013-08-07T17:18:11.277-07:002013-08-07T17:18:11.277-07:00@3:17 Two of the four people let go over this gaff...@3:17 Two of the four people let go over this gaffe are minorities. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-40568372917080714322013-08-07T17:07:48.273-07:002013-08-07T17:07:48.273-07:0080% of the people who are sniping at Tori Campbell...80% of the people who are sniping at Tori Campbell for not instantly noticing the fake names on the teleprompter wouldn't have noticed them either.Anonymoosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-73671740784422660842013-08-07T16:50:53.914-07:002013-08-07T16:50:53.914-07:00As a TV news producer in a market very near SF/Oak...As a TV news producer in a market very near SF/Oakland/San Jose, I am certainly STILL interested in this story as are my co-workers in the newsroom! <br /><br />So thank you for your continued investigation == knowing what goes on behind the scenes in such a stressful environment, we're all thinking 'this could be me!' even if we are also mocking those involved: "How in the world did they NOT notice that!".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-67634168519190704562013-08-07T16:12:31.117-07:002013-08-07T16:12:31.117-07:00Things we need to know (screw you if you hate this...Things we need to know (screw you if you hate this story)<br /><br />1. Who called the NTSB and told the managing editor, we got these names confirmed?<br /><br />It wasn't clear whether it was Michelle Toy or not. According to Leiberman sources, I believe it read, "When Toy was told that the NTSB confirmed the names, she went with it."<br /><br />2. Who called the NTSB within the newsroom? Who told Toy, I have these names confirmed and how did that conversation go down?<br /><br /><br />Could the call have gone like this, hey we just got the pilots names through email? Did you send this out? (moments ticking before noon) <br /><br />Intern: We sent it out. (meaning days ago? The person who called the NTSB needs to explain how that call went down.<br /><br />And then Boom...get it on first first first first first...<br /><br />Cue to Oh Shit!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-44631309825070660042013-08-07T15:50:39.866-07:002013-08-07T15:50:39.866-07:00I have inside information and I'd like to cont...I have inside information and I'd like to contact Cox attorneys. Of course, Rich, I will keep you informed.<br /><br />Can anyone give me the name of the attorney who is conducting the internal investigation for Cox?<br /><br />I will find it on my own, but if anyone has a shortcut, throw me a bone!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-23393537963938352022013-08-07T15:17:05.931-07:002013-08-07T15:17:05.931-07:00You're not allowed to terminate minority worke...You're not allowed to terminate minority workers in the Republic of Kalifornia under any circumstances. Didn't you see the memo?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-74929448408244978592013-08-07T14:20:23.716-07:002013-08-07T14:20:23.716-07:00Deadspin also picked up the story from Rich...
ht...Deadspin also picked up the story from Rich...<br /><br />http://deadspin.com/how-those-fake-pilot-names-made-it-on-tv-1056863397Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-2584205149124218452013-08-07T14:17:53.502-07:002013-08-07T14:17:53.502-07:0011:57, wish I'd said this; well stated, thanks...11:57, wish I'd said this; well stated, thanksjohnny bom bonneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-74386636305562754462013-08-07T13:25:05.494-07:002013-08-07T13:25:05.494-07:00Yeah, inaccuracy in the media IS a bitch, and it S...Yeah, inaccuracy in the media IS a bitch, and it SHOULD be thoroughly reviewed. Ronn Owens used to talk about that before he was bought out last year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-80482800733552278032013-08-07T13:21:27.654-07:002013-08-07T13:21:27.654-07:00Wait a minute!
KTVU is currently looking for a M...Wait a minute! <br /><br />KTVU is currently looking for a Managing Editor. Toy has not been let go. Another commenter said that Toy is now a Social Media Director or something. Well, today KTVU sends out the BOGUS Captain Kangaroo tweet.<br /><br />Does that mean that Toy, not only has her fingerprints all over the Asiana fuck up, but she could be directly involved with the inaccurate tweet that was #BREAKING?<br /><br />With the station already under a microscope, tell me: How THE FUCK is Toy still employed?<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-81242077752361001382013-08-07T13:11:09.111-07:002013-08-07T13:11:09.111-07:00Presumably "Exclusive" stories have valu...Presumably "Exclusive" stories have value because people are interested in them. Who is interested in this stale tale.<br /><br />Rich could post an "Exclusive" story that he just got his mail, but that doesn't make it newsworthy or even interesting for that matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-28558111618709735012013-08-07T13:03:54.170-07:002013-08-07T13:03:54.170-07:00Replying to my own blog, should have proofread it ...Replying to my own blog, should have proofread it before I posted. Last paragraph should have read: Wish Rich would do an update on 910 AM afternoon programming with Frosty and Gil, can't imagine they have any ratings, so boring, 910 advertise local talk all afternoon, but who cares when they don't take calls. Both talk to experts, but they are often from another area, besides the cover topics that often has been covered in the news or on the internet, this programming makes no sense to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-76690121225265541042013-08-07T12:50:58.184-07:002013-08-07T12:50:58.184-07:00Rich,
The way KTVU has handled this is what fuels ...Rich,<br />The way KTVU has handled this is what fuels this cluster F! Trying to rid all the YouTube video is just a joke! The hush hush from the PD, ND is outrageous! I think you not only shoveling but using a tractor to find out what really happen and exposing the in's and out's is important to everyone! Keep digging Rich, you're getting closer! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-57589689785611305832013-08-07T11:57:53.769-07:002013-08-07T11:57:53.769-07:00Rich -- I am happy you are still on this story. ...Rich -- I am happy you are still on this story. If nothing else, this gaffe screams for a suspension of Tori Campbell at the very least. Her Pinocchio-like wood-headedness cost people their jobs! I don't care how many sets of Geppetto hands this copy passed through. The buck stops with her and yet she has never offered an apology. BTW,a retraction is NOT an apology.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-52023227722792992952013-08-07T11:35:06.450-07:002013-08-07T11:35:06.450-07:00I read, or rather look at this blog every day, alt...I read, or rather look at this blog every day, although Rich often post blogs I don't have any interested in. The blogging on name gate at KTVU seem excessive, but then I lost interest in the this particular subject after a few days. However, it does not mean Rich does no have valid points. This site often has blocks about sports or sports announcer's or sports talk, I never ever read even one line, since I have no interest in sports. Rich cover many aspects of the media, I mainly go to this blog (which I found after the KGO firings) for news on talk radio. At this point I do with would do an Frosty, I can't imagine that those 2 hosts have improved ratings. Their advertisement tout local talk all afternoon, but who cares, when they don't take calls? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-11508403922681652852013-08-07T10:33:59.693-07:002013-08-07T10:33:59.693-07:00Come on Rich have the interns not told you KTVU is...Come on Rich have the interns not told you KTVU is an institution? We all know the Ass kissers just think KTVU and KGO are all that and a bag of Doritos. News Flash they are not. Do what you want with 415 You can beat whatever you want to death it is your site. If a Media minion hates it you are doing your job. I had some joker e-mail me. He wanted to tell me I should take down a certain page on my site. as he put it, it was not a credit to journalism. DRIVE BY OPINIONhttp://www.drivebyopinion.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-33017678404152396812013-08-07T10:33:17.534-07:002013-08-07T10:33:17.534-07:00Maybe THIS too: http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2013/0...Maybe THIS too: http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2013/08/07/pilot-consultant-source-of-ktvus-fake-pilot-list-report-says/Rich Liebermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18174495340920055435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-31706850203005637372013-08-07T10:29:45.393-07:002013-08-07T10:29:45.393-07:00The people in the business are STILL talking about...The people in the business are STILL talking about this bit even if they weren't, I'd continue on because the genesis of the story--who was responsible, what did it get past ALL the people it got by, etc. is still to be reported on...Thanks for the comments though.Rich Liebermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18174495340920055435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-5434865015733123312013-08-07T10:12:01.774-07:002013-08-07T10:12:01.774-07:00I'm a huge Rich supporter but I somewhat agree...I'm a huge Rich supporter but I somewhat agree with the top 2 comments. This story is dead in the water. It's finished. Stick a fork in it, it's done. <br /><br />The majority of radio, print, and tv barely even mention it. It's not as big an outrage as some might make it out to be. The "PC" police have really taken over America...I believe that is why it had legs for as long as it had. <br /><br />On the other hand I have to commend Rich for being this passionate about a subject. I wish more reporters and media would follow his lead and stay this passionate when it came to reporting and keeping after what the Democratic party has done to this country (lie, manipulate, pander). Perhaps more would wake up if the real story was covered as long and as hard as Rich covers this story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com