tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post9182774519200402457..comments2024-03-27T23:04:18.683-07:00Comments on RICH LIEBERMAN 415 MEDIA: KTVU Reaches Crisis Status and Needs To Be Called Out, Seriously NowRich Liebermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18174495340920055435noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-91555688560710121822014-06-15T20:58:14.277-07:002014-06-15T20:58:14.277-07:00dipstick at 10:15. The airwaves belong to the publ...dipstick at 10:15. The airwaves belong to the public. When a station like KTVU which used to provide some decent news coverage which helped to inform a public (whether the entire public wanted to be informed is another story), providing a more informed citizenry which is something folks like Jefferson felt was essential for democracy.<br /><br />If you don't care for the public of this republic/democracy to be well informed, go ahead with your blinkered view of "who cares if a once decent news station is now shit" attitude. And while you're at it, go fuck yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-78193989358656295962014-06-15T20:48:37.087-07:002014-06-15T20:48:37.087-07:00Hey 11:35, try striking up a conversation with the...Hey 11:35, try striking up a conversation with the 20- or 30-something next to you in the grocery check-out line. Mention anything that happened more than 4 or 5 years ago and you'll no doubt get that blank stare 'what the hell are you talking about what the hell is wrong with you' look. Now pretend you run a television news operation and this is your prime demo. How do you get them to watch news that they both a/ don't understand and b/ don't give a rip about? Corporations are about making money. If they don't make that their number one priority they are violating their primary raison d'etre. They have to find ways to shape their message for their consumers, and I'm sorry to break this to you but you and I and everyone else out there is nothing but a consumer. Screw your ideals about democracy and journalism. They don't mean squat if nobody watches and you don't make money. There are no more loss leaders in this business anymore. It's all about increasing market share and beating the competition. So Cox doesn't care about producing a good product? You may be right, but that's not their job. Their job is to produce a product that will attract a larger market share than the competition, and to make a lot of money. If you don't get that, fine. Keep complaining about how the horse and carriage were far superior to the automobile, and how terrible it is that people don't all sit around the table at suppertime anymore. Everyone today is just trying to survive as best they can and if that's not up to your impossible standards, tough shit. Give us all a break, read a few books and grow the fuck up. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-29069296006879360352014-06-15T17:50:52.254-07:002014-06-15T17:50:52.254-07:00An excellent assessment, a race to the bottom.An excellent assessment, a race to the bottom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-50170485435633461382014-06-15T17:48:35.603-07:002014-06-15T17:48:35.603-07:00I'm betting the AEs who have to sell time to t...I'm betting the AEs who have to sell time to that gup call it a crisis. If not a fuck festival.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-77273417233335434482014-06-15T17:47:42.984-07:002014-06-15T17:47:42.984-07:00I always feel like Cookie doesn't get a lot of...I always feel like Cookie doesn't get a lot of the news she's reading, so she just punches up every third word, kinda like that scene in Broadcast News--just punch up every third word. I doubt she could pass an entrance exam to 9th grade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-46806055595541124392014-06-15T17:46:11.190-07:002014-06-15T17:46:11.190-07:00I am extremely disgusted you're an East Bay na...I am extremely disgusted you're an East Bay native and you say Eastbay, which is not an actual word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-81908811877133676682014-06-15T17:45:11.803-07:002014-06-15T17:45:11.803-07:00Friday the 13th, Rich.
Otherwise KTVU would have ...Friday the 13th, Rich.<br /><br />Otherwise KTVU would have done a flawless newscast, like they always do. ;-)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-25505494869272399952014-06-15T16:09:48.315-07:002014-06-15T16:09:48.315-07:00Christine, we go back to the midwest once or twice...Christine, we go back to the midwest once or twice per year and the affectation doesn't seem as bad there. Yeah...if you want news in Cleveland you watch WOIO (which is why most of the oldsters don't - it's their equivalent of KRON) but WKYC, WEWS and WJW still have the same talent they have had for years doing the same jobs. Conclusion? CULTURE. It's not pretentious. They don't have our money.rootvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03524524048523221143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-55966862753710659122014-06-15T09:15:40.375-07:002014-06-15T09:15:40.375-07:00Since the advent of television news consultants an...Since the advent of television news consultants and the resulting collapse of any original thinking in producing local tv. newscasts, all of it, from sea to shining sea, sounds and looks the same.You know the drill, the same clothes , hairdos, male/female pairings, spaceship news sets, banter(scripted or otherwise),dumbing down of language, pc perkiness and the like. No wonder fewer and fewer and fewer people watch it. The only plus for tv news is the ability(thanks to camera people) to take you to the scene of an event .. <br /> How does one become a t.v. news consultant??. Just call yourself one and done. If you ever wonder why Americans have become generally dumber and dumber over the years(in ways both observable and measurable), t.v. news is no small factor.Christinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-27504251668000968442014-06-15T07:00:24.660-07:002014-06-15T07:00:24.660-07:00Maybe the Giants management sent Kuiper to rehab i...Maybe the Giants management sent Kuiper to rehab instead of Krukow.<br /><br />Krukow is plowed during most games.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-38973716924263773912014-06-14T23:35:08.751-07:002014-06-14T23:35:08.751-07:00As an Eastbay native, I am extremely disgusted tha...As an Eastbay native, I am extremely disgusted that Oakland's only TV station - one with an incredible history in itself - has been plagued by complete incompetence by both the General Manager and the News Director. I am very disappointed that the hierarchy at Cox Headquarters in Atlanta is emulating fellow Atlantans Cumulus and not giving a complete rip about consistently maintaining a good product. I hate seeing a part of my entertainment roots get literally plagued by people who have no clue and have no business being in their jobs. A shame. Let's hope there are enough viewers and bloggers who will message Cox and tell them that's enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-35759834757870141412014-06-14T23:03:50.741-07:002014-06-14T23:03:50.741-07:00OK, Rich...let me chime in. Most of the newscasts...OK, Rich...let me chime in. Most of the newscasts here (all the majors) look to me as if they're very formulaic, almost phoned in. That's due to the culture. Guns, bad. Anything that has to do with green this or green that, favorable. A mob protesting for vegetable rights, good. Anyone questioning the right of someone who's gay or a member of any protected group to do anything is bad...no matter what it is. Everyone's afraid of the so called gay mafia or Asian mafia or whomever. <br /><br />The reason you have what you have (the shallowness, the sanitized and formulaic coverage of everything) is because that's what people seem to want. Go to Dallas and you won't see it. Go to Houston and you won't see it. Go to Columbus or Cleveland and you won't see it. They report the news and THAT'S IT. No mind screwing allowed.<br /><br />Go to Los Angeles and you damn well won't see it! I remember KTLA Morning News from twelve years ago when we first moved there or even from the mid nineties when I first worked out here for a few months. There were Carlos Amezcua, Barbara Beck, Jennifer York on traffic, Sam Rubin with the entertainment beat, Mark Kriski on weather...GOOD STUFF. They had tons of chemistry and their ratings were on the roof, for years!<br /><br />The problem up here is the culture...the anger, fear, bias against offending anyone or risk taking of any kind. It's not normal. We've been around. We know.<br /><br />Do you want something to blame? Political correctness and a risk averse culture driven by the fact that most people here are living far beyond their means due to what this place costs.rootvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03524524048523221143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-78583708290336794372014-06-14T22:16:53.003-07:002014-06-14T22:16:53.003-07:00Lieberman is just looking for new ways to present ...Lieberman is just looking for new ways to present his same old talking points...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-18234412973703451012014-06-14T22:15:05.582-07:002014-06-14T22:15:05.582-07:00So don't watch KTVU. The only crisis here is ...So don't watch KTVU. The only crisis here is Rich coming off with something fresh to write about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-18006428240693509392014-06-14T21:10:34.012-07:002014-06-14T21:10:34.012-07:00If you view Elizabeth Cook more than once a night,...If you view Elizabeth Cook more than once a night, she comes across as too "affected" in reading the news. De la Cruz is a much better reader and not pretentious like Cook.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-65439792231473903362014-06-14T20:26:12.499-07:002014-06-14T20:26:12.499-07:00KTVU fell of the deep end the day Dave Clark start...KTVU fell of the deep end the day Dave Clark started. Mornings on 2 is unwatchable unless Clark is on vacation..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-80087299631697830692014-06-14T20:03:20.452-07:002014-06-14T20:03:20.452-07:00Jesus Christ. relax, Rich. if you don't like K...Jesus Christ. relax, Rich. if you don't like KTVU, don't watch. Problem solved. I don't think anyone is as bothered by this as you. probably just couldn't find another item to talk about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-46799744671329313692014-06-14T18:33:17.231-07:002014-06-14T18:33:17.231-07:00I don't always agree with Rich, but on this on...I don't always agree with Rich, but on this one he is 100% correct. I've been watching news in the area for over 20 years, and for most of that time KTVU was the standard. Lately, it's been an embarassment. Shameful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-42392601358418405142014-06-14T17:45:37.386-07:002014-06-14T17:45:37.386-07:00Crisis. What crisis? Don't misuse words. The m...Crisis. What crisis? Don't misuse words. The more appropriate term would be an erosion of quality. The Twitter stuff is laughable considering this is a station that fired someone over a Tweet. Pot-kettle-black.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-4136577176451683532014-06-14T16:43:53.433-07:002014-06-14T16:43:53.433-07:003:42: I've noticed that the Giants' annou...3:42: I've noticed that the Giants' announcers often refer to their counterparts as being "on assignment" when they're away for any reason. I believe it's a euphemism for "he ain't here, and it's none of your business where he is". It was mentioned several times, though, that Kuiper was sick, and they hoped he would feel better. On a KGOne note: I found myself turning the radio on, following the Giants' loss - and, there he was.....Ryan Scott. I wouldn't listen to him if I was on a desert island, and his show was the only thing to listen to. Nope..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-4653325455190250002014-06-14T15:44:56.251-07:002014-06-14T15:44:56.251-07:00Agreed. He was an inept BART cop who made a mista...Agreed. He was an inept BART cop who made a mistake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-43877186302252310432014-06-14T15:42:17.864-07:002014-06-14T15:42:17.864-07:00Please forgive my semi-off-topic post. 1) KTVU ha...Please forgive my semi-off-topic post. 1) KTVU has gotten sloppy (I've also noticed the "flubs;" but I agree with whomever said "you get what you pay for." 2) Again KTVU - how can the weather map say the "Hi-temp" in Napa be 87, but the scroll at the bottom of the screen says something different? 3) After reading Rich's De La Cruz stuff and the KPIX Cook/Allen tension (?), I started watching KPIX for my 5 o'clock news. Besides now being in love with Ms. Cook, I believe I see a more professional newscast (compared to KTVU). 4) What's with Krukow and Miller referring to Kuiper as being "on assignment," but in the next breath saying he is ill? Did he call in-sick, but isn't really (like a Muni driver)? <br /><br />Thanks for indulging me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-68513042905514466652014-06-14T15:37:33.190-07:002014-06-14T15:37:33.190-07:00Surprised no one mentioned this. Christina Rendon,...Surprised no one mentioned this. Christina Rendon, covered the 12 pm news Friday afternoon. Not only does she look good but she did a good job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-76432913855372834462014-06-14T15:23:47.233-07:002014-06-14T15:23:47.233-07:00The color of Bill Martin's tie didn't go w...The color of Bill Martin's tie didn't go well with his shirt. I'm outraged!Anonymoosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-15631742591888758952014-06-14T15:22:07.458-07:002014-06-14T15:22:07.458-07:00Would this entice FOX to pursue a purchase of KRON...Would this entice FOX to pursue a purchase of KRON ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com