tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post8118037260609915639..comments2024-03-28T18:50:18.901-07:00Comments on RICH LIEBERMAN 415 MEDIA: Why KTVU Still Matters In Spite Of An 'Obsession'; Sunday ColumnRich Liebermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18174495340920055435noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-87304844635121649422014-10-14T04:59:16.984-07:002014-10-14T04:59:16.984-07:00Andrew Finlayson was a joke and started the declin...Andrew Finlayson was a joke and started the decline. He was the worst hire O'Brien ever made. He lived off the success of the pros that were still there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-49402826050085194002014-10-13T17:37:33.756-07:002014-10-13T17:37:33.756-07:00Thanks for your continuous critiques on the local ...Thanks for your continuous critiques on the local stations Rich. They deserve the wrath that you dish out on a regular basis. So many frauds and neophytes that should never get a sniff on the local airwaves, but they are hired because the media has not only been consolidated and 'dumbed down,' but these merciless owners of the mega-companies feel no obligation to serve the public. A lot of the 'younger demographic' that is so coveted by the consultants no longer listens to the radio or watches much TV, so when consultants and programmers talk about how we're <br />"going after the young demographic," they are really tilting at windmills, because the 'young demographic' has become irrelevant. <br /> <br />'young demographic' has become irrelevant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-84454611344223231172014-10-13T17:26:42.945-07:002014-10-13T17:26:42.945-07:00Could someone PLEASE give Gasia M a valium. She pr...Could someone PLEASE give Gasia M a valium. She practically levitates out of her seat with excitement while reading the prompter. Horrible habit and annoying as the devil. Makes her sound like an excitable teenager. Julie H is so much more professional. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-33137342875456938272014-10-13T14:04:29.279-07:002014-10-13T14:04:29.279-07:00@10:37 if you count the replays on 36, 20 and 44 y...@10:37 if you count the replays on 36, 20 and 44 you're easily on 30+ newscast airings per night...not even counting the national shows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-57658806913380057842014-10-13T14:01:48.390-07:002014-10-13T14:01:48.390-07:0012:39 even if you only count 2, 4, 5, 7 and 11.......12:39 even if you only count 2, 4, 5, 7 and 11....each runs at least 2, some 3 newscasts each per night. Let's assume 2....that's 10 newscasts. With 3, that's 15. All run a morning show and a couple run noontime-ish newscasts. All in all, well over 20 newscasts a day just from those 5.....all reporting the same stuff. Just admit you're wrong and move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-36360581354675311302014-10-13T13:02:40.384-07:002014-10-13T13:02:40.384-07:00I caught the ch2 weekend morning news. I think Cla...I caught the ch2 weekend morning news. I think Claudine Wong does a great impersonation of the National Weather Service guy giving high tide and surf warnings on short wave radio.<br />Its drone,monotone, and blink only rarely.<br />She needs to load up on the Prozac.Stan the Observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12908178414036768306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-51354160487482782422014-10-13T12:39:37.670-07:002014-10-13T12:39:37.670-07:00> KTVU 2, KRON 4, CBS 5, ABC 7, KNTV 11, Telemu...> KTVU 2, KRON 4, CBS 5, ABC 7, KNTV 11, Telemundo, not to mention quite a few different Asian bay area news channels.<br /><br />They're all still going. If you're going to count Telemundo and the Asian channels with zero budget and the public access community TV station (I wasn't) then things haven't changed. They were on then and they're on now. So my math is fine, thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-57552404375343284712014-10-13T11:41:24.408-07:002014-10-13T11:41:24.408-07:00Don't expect a massive layoff or some abrupt c...Don't expect a massive layoff or some abrupt change overnight. This will play out probably over the next 6-12 months. Familiar faces will go away. Graphics will change. Even the style of news might change. It is not cost effective to go in and dump people with contracts. You'd have to pay them severance. In FOX's ideal world, people will lay themselves off. Contracts will be allowed to expire and those who get to renegotiate should be prepared to take less. KTVU hasn't been KTVU in probably 5 years. And it's not coming back. The days of companies investing in TV are over. Everything is now incredibly bottom line driven. They'll milk the staff as much as they can because that's the best way to increase the profit margin. Ratings would help too but the easy way is to make people do more with a lot less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-33588298194013541652014-10-13T07:50:18.416-07:002014-10-13T07:50:18.416-07:00Just curious, is what is being written about KTVU ...Just curious, is what is being written about KTVU in this thread any different than what has been happening to the other local TV news operations? Or is this just a KTVU thing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-53272738079893249352014-10-13T07:39:59.185-07:002014-10-13T07:39:59.185-07:00I find much of Bloomberg's content to be a diz...I find much of Bloomberg's content to be a dizzying parade of voices, short self-contained McStories, tinny sounders, and self-aggrandizing promos. Whether on 960 or as heard on KGO, Bloomberg Radio seems to be predicated on the idea that we all have the attention span of a gnat.Some Guyhttp://kgoradio.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-80576720285580565252014-10-13T04:45:39.361-07:002014-10-13T04:45:39.361-07:00anon at 4:01pm..a very knowledgeable post, with go...anon at 4:01pm..a very knowledgeable post, with good perspective. I feel a few more items are germane to add to the reason KTVU has degenerated into what it is now. The Cox bean counters assumed bottom line was all, never taking into account that the content of the content is what ultimately drives the bottom line. Now, with nothing but horrible newscasts, KTVU burns through "account executives" like dirty laundry, and selling ad time on television these days is akin to selling yellow page space about 20 years ago. The gutting of the production and engineering staff is overlooked in blogs like this, since these people are never seen, but when they are gone, quality control is nonexistent, and yet everyone wonders why things have gone to pot. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-961656244569697222014-10-12T22:37:47.237-07:002014-10-12T22:37:47.237-07:00And 5:49, don't forget kqed channel 9, channel...And 5:49, don't forget kqed channel 9, channel 20, channel 36, sometimes channel 44, so that's more than 6 or 7, and those are all English stations.mollynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-12167494616335026412014-10-12T17:50:25.843-07:002014-10-12T17:50:25.843-07:00@2:43 I'm late 30's and I can't tell y...@2:43 I'm late 30's and I can't tell you the last time I turned on a local newscast. I know quite a few others that are the same way. I am one of the minority that still reads a newspaper tho.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-92093421740289336742014-10-12T17:49:28.815-07:002014-10-12T17:49:28.815-07:00@2:03 lets see. KTVU 2, KRON 4, CBS 5, ABC 7, KNTV...@2:03 lets see. KTVU 2, KRON 4, CBS 5, ABC 7, KNTV 11, Telemundo, not to mention quite a few different Asian bay area news channels. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few. Each station runs a 5pm or6pm and 11pm, some all 3. So yea, his math adds up. Yours doesn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-73181037233935272992014-10-12T16:12:36.201-07:002014-10-12T16:12:36.201-07:00A followup on your remarks about the Bloomberg Rad...A followup on your remarks about the Bloomberg Radio Network a few days back. This version of 960 am is capable of presenting some good discussions about world events. However, much of the time I turn to it, I am greeted by one British voice speaking to another British voice, and then about some arcane, abstraction of the financial world. I usually don't stay tuned in, feeling the discussion is most likely not relative to my existence. There is great potential for good shows though, so long as they don't take the easy, sleazy way out and stack the schedule with too many Miracle Vitamin 'Doctors' .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-81889064869993886272014-10-12T16:01:46.918-07:002014-10-12T16:01:46.918-07:00The change began when Cox corporate got involved i...The change began when Cox corporate got involved in the day to day running of KTVU. Kevin O'Brien worked hard to protect "his people" from the suits in Atlanta. But when he failed to get the corporate job and his competitor for that position forced him out, things began to go into the dumper. It took time, but it was entirely predictable, given the flash and trash news product the Cox folks seemed to like.For example, a few years ago they came in and forced something called "Active process" on KTVU's news folks (and on news people corporation wide). That's why you see KTVU reporters holding up pieces of paper, showing you what's behind them in a live host, or anchors constantly telling you "As we first told you yesterday). They seemed to love insulting the intelligence of the audience..KTVU's outstanding news product was built on respecting the intelligence of the audience and rewarding smart people for tuning in. That changed severely over the past decade.There is now no reward for intelligent people to watch Channel Two News.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-87776849719042700292014-10-12T14:43:51.347-07:002014-10-12T14:43:51.347-07:00"especially considering alot of the current g..."especially considering alot of the current generation coming up gets their news from Twitter, Facebook and other internet outlets." <br /><br />Must be of VDLC and Night Beat. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-87569378273128162932014-10-12T14:03:29.674-07:002014-10-12T14:03:29.674-07:00> The days of having 6 or 7 different local cha...> The days of having 6 or 7 different local channels with 3 newscasts each <br />> per night are over.<br /><br />When were there ever such days? Six or seven different channels? Twenty-one different newscasts per night? As Sheldon Cooper would say, in what alternate universe???<br /><br />Leonard Hofstadternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-2640216642647862362014-10-12T12:27:44.373-07:002014-10-12T12:27:44.373-07:00In the end it doesn't matter. The days of havi...In the end it doesn't matter. The days of having 6 or 7 different local channels with 3 newscasts each per night are over. No one needs all of that news, especially considering alot of the current generation coming up gets their news from Twitter, Facebook and other internet outlets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-92031889901157575362014-10-12T11:31:11.883-07:002014-10-12T11:31:11.883-07:00I don't think you've been "overly cri...I don't think you've been "overly critical." They deserve all of the criticism they get. Asiana, Giants "ALDS" graphic, constant gibberish tweets, American Idol embarrassment, etc. <br /><br />They used to be great and now they are a shell of what they were, at best. They deserve the lack of good will pointed in their direction and they did it to themselves. Screw KTVU for letting it happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com