tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post5603610356768665967..comments2024-03-29T03:11:15.951-07:00Comments on RICH LIEBERMAN 415 MEDIA: The Drakes Bay Oyster Farm Controversy on KSCO Saturday Special with MZRich Liebermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18174495340920055435noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-90993676364695275312013-07-20T15:28:47.077-07:002013-07-20T15:28:47.077-07:00Get a clue, both the Cause of Action and the Pacif...Get a clue, both the Cause of Action and the Pacific Legal Foundation (a CA based conservative group) both receive funding from the Koch brothers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-73116998674168581242013-07-20T15:00:40.345-07:002013-07-20T15:00:40.345-07:00I tuned into the debate, and found it very interes...I tuned into the debate, and found it very interesting. I was happy to hear from the guests on both sides, as well as the callers on both sides, which helped me to firm up my position. It was clear to me that, unfortunately, all sides have dug deeply into their positions, and no amount of facts or negotiation will change minds.<br /><br />However, I have to say I was appalled at the lack of professionalism in handling the callers. Apparently there was no 5-second delay. The caller who said Bruce should be shot should not have gotten on the air. And if he got past the delay, he should have been cut off immediately. Instead, MZ engaged him and persuaded him to say he meant "with a super soaker." No! That was a cop-out. This caller made a threat, which should never have been aired, and he should have immediately been cut off.<br /><br />Other callers were permitted to make infantile sound effects while the guests were trying to speak. Everyone (except Lunny) continually interruped other speakers. <br /><br />I don't listend to KGO anymore, but I am absolutely convinced that threats, constant interruptions, and infantile sound effects would not have been permitted on "pre-Cumulus" KGO.MarkNicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-61220998057147987032013-07-20T09:58:08.524-07:002013-07-20T09:58:08.524-07:00The charlatans are the folks who associate Koch br...The charlatans are the folks who associate Koch brothers money with the Drake's Bay Oyster Company and the folks who claim to be "in" West Marin but have no knowledge of the history of Point Reyes and the creation of the National Seashore. West Marin overwhelmingly supports its neighbors. Amy Trainer (a newcomer to the area) has been discredited as the source of the false claims of Koch Brothers influence in this controversy.<br /><br />Read "The Case of the Indian Trader" by Berkowitz and you can see how -- unfortunately -- the National Park Service higher-ups are not the guys in the white hats that we think. The NPS worker bees are embarassed and ashamed of their leadership. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-56595031260019026192013-07-19T09:54:28.042-07:002013-07-19T09:54:28.042-07:00The bottom line is this: Lunny knew what he was g...The bottom line is this: Lunny knew what he was getting into when he bought the Oyster farm eight years ago. He is NOT an environmentally friendly guy, he pays lousy wages to his employees, and then he has the temerity to complain when he is told his business must shut down, because he isn't living up to what was written in the lease. In any other profession, this guy would be laughed out of town, or rather, run out of town on a rail. But he has falsely used the environmental card to try and get his business a reprieve, (it isn't working!) This guy is getting no sympathy from those of us here in western Marin who are familiar with his scam. He's a CHARLATAN of the first order!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-21593903189297468722013-07-19T09:18:51.315-07:002013-07-19T09:18:51.315-07:00This is an issue where there should be no politics...This is an issue where there should be no politics, no left or right. I have heard the owner on Barbara Simpson's show and also on Pat Thurston's both Pat and Barbara have the same position, they want Drake's Bay Oyster Co to stay open.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-37855885558197913312013-07-19T08:52:27.774-07:002013-07-19T08:52:27.774-07:00Keep Drakes Bay Oyster Farm. From the beginning t...Keep Drakes Bay Oyster Farm. From the beginning this has seemed to be one of those made up environmental issues because someone else wanted use of the land. "...hmm if we say they are damaging the land and hurting the wildlife we can get that entire area for our own use we could (paddleboard, kayak, etc)." <br /><br />I hope Drakes Bay wins this round and this can be put to bed. A small company making it that was there before the park shouldn't be forced to move because someone else wants to use the land in the park! Drakes Bay should be considered a treasure and part of the park, not removed from it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-4956053155550350922013-07-19T08:42:52.450-07:002013-07-19T08:42:52.450-07:00Wow, guy (Lunny) buys a business in 2004 WAY under...Wow, guy (Lunny) buys a business in 2004 WAY under market value knowing that the lease would expire in 2012. He employs 28, half earning less than $12 per hour, makes no moves to clean up or shut down the operation to comply with the lease and then at the last minute plays the job and environmental card. <br />Ask Lunny about the seeding of Manila clams, an invasive species.<br />A deal is a deal. <br />Ask him about the Koch brothers connection and how they are using this to fight the Obama Administration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-10155723412573886132013-07-19T08:15:52.507-07:002013-07-19T08:15:52.507-07:00The fact that we now have a new Sec'y of the I...The fact that we now have a new Sec'y of the Interior makes it a perfect time to rescind Salazar's edict. Hopefully the 9th c. will do the right thing here. The President, in his State of the Union address spoke to creating and keeping environmentally-friendly jobs...the 40 or so Drake's Bay Oyster Co. workers should be part of that paradigm. Imagine Swan's without oysters..fresh north bay oysters! Oyster poop is not evil. I'll be listening to MZ, perhaps calling in!Christinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-30038343733656923692013-07-18T21:39:15.568-07:002013-07-18T21:39:15.568-07:00Oh, boy, Rich. Quit the journalist, you are. Woodw...Oh, boy, Rich. Quit the journalist, you are. Woodward and Bernstein got scooped on this one. "The Great Oyster Scandal." I smell a Pulitzer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com