tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post5186978031174407894..comments2024-03-28T05:28:54.552-07:00Comments on RICH LIEBERMAN 415 MEDIA: Veteran Traffic Reporter Burford leaving KGO RadioRich Liebermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18174495340920055435noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-59852342557228415062012-08-17T07:42:29.628-07:002012-08-17T07:42:29.628-07:00Yes, Rush Hour Relief, about 20 years ago.Yes, Rush Hour Relief, about 20 years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-72534260799913176062012-08-16T17:52:04.702-07:002012-08-16T17:52:04.702-07:00It's idiotic that you expect a guy's "...It's idiotic that you expect a guy's "goodbye memo" would air any ill will toward his employers. My justification, sir, is well "inside the building". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-75982019412642200392012-08-15T22:00:56.617-07:002012-08-15T22:00:56.617-07:00On the good "old" KGO I'm pretty sur...On the good "old" KGO I'm pretty sure if someone retired who had been there for so many years, someone often Ronn would do a so called "goodbye" show. If that does not happen, perhaps it wasen't his decision, perhaps it was, like I heard Ed Baxter and Rosie say they got out because the saw the writing on the wall. Fact is he is, if I can add, well beyond retirement age, so it is totally believable that he wants to retire. If there is not special send of show, it could be because he didn't get to choose his departure, or it could be that Cumulus do not want to encourage that kind of "We are a family" show, which the old KGO was so good at.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-67209059698747336892012-08-15T15:46:17.167-07:002012-08-15T15:46:17.167-07:00Stan wrote a memo that explained why he was retiri...Stan wrote a memo that explained why he was retiring.<br /><br />It is idiotic for you to dismiss his own words suggest an alternative reason without any justification. Just another example of believing what you want to believe regardless of the facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-9781480162355308232012-08-15T13:03:38.987-07:002012-08-15T13:03:38.987-07:00Like he's going to say in a memo "I hate ...Like he's going to say in a memo "I hate that they've gutted my staff so now I'm retiring" Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-53351081955242914952012-08-15T13:01:49.305-07:002012-08-15T13:01:49.305-07:00I think, he/she has been rather measured in these ...I think, he/she has been rather measured in these comments, sir. Not the case with all these posters. Sometimes in life, there are companies that are not operating in anyones best interest (except possibly the stockholders). Righteous indignation is called for. As an insider and someone with 30+ years in the broadcast industry, this I can rightly say, is one of those times. We've all accepted leaner. We've all accepted salary cuts, longer work days and the elimination of staff. It's the times we are living in, granted. The Cumulus model is a whole other can of worms. I have many friends at 55 Hawthorne and the facts are disturbing. However, if you'd like to continue defending a soul-less corporation that you have no affiliation with, we obviously cannot stop you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-19967019952109720992012-08-15T12:27:31.647-07:002012-08-15T12:27:31.647-07:00Didn't Stan write a book about the bay area tr...Didn't Stan write a book about the bay area traffic and shortcuts eons ago or was that Lynn Durling? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-4146586669689209042012-08-15T12:12:42.289-07:002012-08-15T12:12:42.289-07:00It is so typical that Rich has spun a routine reti...It is so typical that Rich has spun a routine retirement into his evil Cumulus narrative. Rich, save the drama! Are you back from your "I can't go on" escapade?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-22228913601682610682012-08-15T10:51:58.759-07:002012-08-15T10:51:58.759-07:00Stan himself put out a memo to the staff explainin...Stan himself put out a memo to the staff explaining his decision to retire, YES, retire. As has been noted by other commenters, he's been moving in this direction for a few years. His decision entirely.<br /><br />Stop creating drama where there is none, all of you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-15059912593518438152012-08-15T10:43:39.394-07:002012-08-15T10:43:39.394-07:00@6:00 No, you're the one that doesn't get ...@6:00 No, you're the one that doesn't get it. The industry has changed. You gain comfort by identifying specific enemies and embarking on this self-righteous campaign against them but I find that unrealistic and simplistic.<br /><br />I'm not on their payroll or have a vested interest in the industry. I'm just put off by all the self-righteous indignation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-18651287522031318752012-08-15T10:19:30.244-07:002012-08-15T10:19:30.244-07:00I doubt anyone thinks this is "unique" t...I doubt anyone thinks this is "unique" to broadcasting, but since we're on a media blogsite, it's more germain to the conversation than grousing about the state of the nation. We are a microcosm of what's going on a much bigger scale. No greater sympathy, but sympathy none the less. It's sad that the public has to put up with a product that is so much "less than" what it could be. With just a little creativity, you can still pinch pennies and deliver a decent product. That's the big shame with Cumulus and the like...they just bulldoze it all down. Needlessly and with no vision. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-44980333517123790542012-08-15T08:39:23.132-07:002012-08-15T08:39:23.132-07:00"These companies are not broadcasting corpora..."These companies are not broadcasting corporations, they are leveraging firms and it's a dirty rotten shame."<br /><br />I agree with you about that, but it's not just Cumulus and Clear Channel and the broadcast industry. Regrettably, that's the economic world we live in and I'm bothered by the suggestion that those in broadcasting have been uniquely victimized and deserving of greater sympathy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-42614118122800230182012-08-15T08:38:45.667-07:002012-08-15T08:38:45.667-07:00You look to the past with rose covered glasses. I&...You look to the past with rose covered glasses. I've been in broadcasting for 30 years and it has always been about management trying to reduce costs and pay us as little as they can while working us as much as they can. That's American capitalism, for better or worse and is true everywhere and in EVERY industry. No one is saying get over it. What we are saying is "what mysterious age of glorious management/worker peace, love and harmony era are you making up!" Without being a apologist for Cumulus I will remind people it was much, much, much worse under Citadel, which bleed us dry all. We literally had to roll out a red carpet for that SOB of a CEO when he came out to tell us the company was bankrupt and looking for a buyer. Cumulus has at the lease reinvested in equipment, hired new employees, many of whom a long time broadcast vets. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-54078209490388216892012-08-15T06:00:21.259-07:002012-08-15T06:00:21.259-07:00You just don't get it. THE PRODUCT HAS BEEN SE...You just don't get it. THE PRODUCT HAS BEEN SEVERLY COMPROMISED. Okay? All companies are lean and mean in this economy. The trick is to do without ruining your product. KGO has ruined their product and by doing so, lost most of their listeners. They could have still run the place lean and mean without destroying the station, which provided a service to the community. Why are you such an apologist for this terrible company is the question. Must be on the payroll.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-54307372473773925032012-08-15T00:07:24.134-07:002012-08-15T00:07:24.134-07:00Very well said.
Rich spins it this way to engage h...Very well said.<br />Rich spins it this way to engage his unsophisticated readers in his good guy Rich vs. all the evil villains in the industry fantasy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-67782422187735753512012-08-14T20:51:44.493-07:002012-08-14T20:51:44.493-07:00And you are surprised that big companies consolida...And you are surprised that big companies consolidate operations for the sake of efficiency and economy? <br /><br />Try phoning any company you used to call and speak to humans on the phone, now you get an automated voice and if you talk to any living person, they're likely overseas... Is that the Dickeys' fault too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-21645562765939262082012-08-14T17:48:38.810-07:002012-08-14T17:48:38.810-07:00Stan is the man...but I still miss Lou Hurley...Stan is the man...but I still miss Lou Hurley...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-10007994447320397632012-08-14T17:36:41.428-07:002012-08-14T17:36:41.428-07:00Here here! I can only imagine these people to be y...Here here! I can only imagine these people to be young and naive. They're so happy to have jobs in broadcasting and know that they only way they advance is for the veterans to clear out. Or be cleared out. These companies like Cumulus and Clear Channel have ZERO regard for you, or your family. You are a number on a ledger sheet. You are not "talent" and have no inherent value. You just make the wheel continue to spin. And if it's not you, it'll be the next person, willing to work for crap wages in terrible work conditions without complaining. This has nothing to do with "broadcasting" as we know it. These companies are not broadcasting corporations, they are leveraging firms and it's a dirty rotten shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-13948550578513919262012-08-14T16:46:51.852-07:002012-08-14T16:46:51.852-07:00Dickey trolls....go elsewhere! Your banal attempt...Dickey trolls....go elsewhere! Your banal attempts at juvenile humor and outrageous comment are not welcome here at 415 media.<br /><br /> We veterans want to reflect upon the past glories and great days of radio in the area, not these dark times currently faced. We don't need your oinkish treacle and adolescent take on everything, such as : "get over it dude!" No, YOU get over it! And get a clue dim wits! You're supporting and being used by corporations that will use you up and pay you less money now than ever, and then they'll discard you. Wait until it happens to you....and then you'll feel the outrage that we feel. <br /><br /> In the meantime, enjoy your pathetic little time as 'broadcasters' because that's what you are in name only. The quality of on-air work in radio in the bay area at this current time has never sunk to such a low level! I'm sure you can reflect proudly on that in days to come as you reflect in the not too distant future about your brief moments of glory!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-674082564719895102012-08-14T16:42:57.519-07:002012-08-14T16:42:57.519-07:00Not uninformed at all. I'm well inside the rop...Not uninformed at all. I'm well inside the ropes and know what I'm talking about. If you can't figure out who "they" are, I'll be more specific. They are Cumulus (duh) who spun off a traffic reporting "service" called Radiate which is actually maintained by an office in Chicago. Imagine your local traffic info being fed to you from Chicago. It is nearly impossible to make sense of CHP's dismal information to a LOCAL reporter, let alone some drone in Chicago. In setting up this "service" they (Cumulus again) eliminated the airborne reporters and the super commuter who used to drive the commutes times.<br /><br />Stan would have too much class to point the finger publicly. I'm sure he was easing towards retirement but with his resources compromised, he will be unable to provide the same quality product he's known for. This likely will have hastened his retirement.<br /><br />I'm not a fanatic and it doesn't take one to see what the Dickeys have wrought upon Bay Area radio. Sorry you can't recognize something so plainly obvious.<br /><br />And "by all accounts" Stan does NOT sound worn out. I'm sure he was disspirited with the change and perhaps that came out a bit, but he still is golden. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-48347511899921365832012-08-14T15:52:21.636-07:002012-08-14T15:52:21.636-07:00I like Stan. It's too bad he's leaving. ...I like Stan. It's too bad he's leaving. But, on the other hand, I haven't listened to him since 12/1/11. So, either happy retirement or I hope he finds a good job elsewhere. He's very good at what he does.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-42651513007957755972012-08-14T15:46:05.511-07:002012-08-14T15:46:05.511-07:00It's interesting. You spun this out exactly as...It's interesting. You spun this out exactly as everyone in the newsroom predicted you would. You would make veiled references to Stan being pushed out, etc. All to stir up stuff in your comments section. Did you actually you know, call Stan for a quote? Nope, of course not that would be reporting. He's not hard to reach I'm sure that we would at the very least pass on a message from you with you contact information. Stan's a newsman and I'm sure he would answer. If you want to pretend that you reporting on the industry then use some of those great reporting skills you claim to have. <br /><br />As to Stan's retirement. He has been moving toward retirement for some years and has talked openly about doing so for some time. He put up with a grueling split shift for decades to be our voice. The toughest work anywhere. Get up early, have a couple hours off, work till 7 p.m and then head off to bed. <br /><br />We love Stan, he has been the Voice of traffic and it will not be possible to replace him, only replace the service he gives our listeners. I would hope we get lucky and hire back our air traffic reporter Michael Lynn to do Stan's job. I have no idea whether she's applied. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-84102184305312020642012-08-14T15:25:19.011-07:002012-08-14T15:25:19.011-07:00@9:46,@5:55, and @7:44
Sorry but I just don't...@9:46,@5:55, and @7:44<br /><br />Sorry but I just don't understand the mentality here that just because this guy is leaving his job after a very long and successful career, that he must a victim of something evil.<br /><br />How about it was time for him to retire? End of story. Careers to end, you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-34284957998830997812012-08-14T12:24:31.304-07:002012-08-14T12:24:31.304-07:00Thank you for the gratuitous name-calling and agai...Thank you for the gratuitous name-calling and again demonstrating the uninformed anger that seems to fuel many regular posters on this site.<br /><br />By all accounts, Stan was ready to retire after a very long career and has begun to sound a little worn out, as befits a gentleman of his age.<br /><br />But somehow you know that "they've cut him off at the knees" without ever explaining who they are and concluded that's the reason he is retiring - without any factual support except your own fanatical imagination about those demonic Dickeys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-40156894943920017622012-08-14T12:21:06.832-07:002012-08-14T12:21:06.832-07:00Apparently traffic on the Cumulus stations is bein...Apparently traffic on the Cumulus stations is being produced out of Chicago. That would explain all the inaccuracies. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com