tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post3374831630014265257..comments2024-03-19T00:35:13.359-07:00Comments on RICH LIEBERMAN 415 MEDIA: The Old KGO was a Special Place when Big News Broke; 9/11, Colorado Massacre, Loma Prieta Quake illustrate Importance of once-mighty 810 AM; Sunday PostRich Liebermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18174495340920055435noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-13192037575099379162012-07-31T23:15:00.419-07:002012-07-31T23:15:00.419-07:00Wow, KGone still has some very talented news ancho...Wow, KGone still has some very talented news anchors (KGO staff from before the station trashing) but what has happened to the technical aspects? Dead air, recorded stuff that doesn't play, missed cues... this goes on nonstop. Ok, that's the good stuff.... Cumulus is insulting what little audience that they have left by hiring such "trashy" talk show hosts for the weekend. The witch=0, Karel has rare flashes of intelligence but for the most part uses his air time to whine, simper, cry, trash other personalities and tortures listeners with the most blatant self promotion I've ever heard. KGone should charge him ad rates while he is on air. To those who may respond, turn off or change frequencies.... save your texts... I already have!! Thanks for a great Forum Rich.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-77099954019942966592012-07-25T21:09:52.443-07:002012-07-25T21:09:52.443-07:00Oh! Oh! Oh!
But did you know HOW the auto industr...Oh! Oh! Oh!<br /><br />But did you know HOW the auto industry destroyed America's great train systems? <br /><br />Also, did you know that the Bay Area Key System eventually ran the same terrain that BART eventually took over?<br /><br />And a ride to San Francisco from the East Bay was pretty much the same amount of time as what BART does today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-27393764434715469172012-07-25T21:04:51.853-07:002012-07-25T21:04:51.853-07:00@ 9:20: Check out 910, baby. Getting better by the...@ 9:20: Check out 910, baby. Getting better by the day!<br /><br />Yes, you folks think you can feed your listeners Pink Slime and we'll "get over" having had Harris Ranch beef before.<br /><br />And thus, we're on to bigger and better! We listeners!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-60891629255353088662012-07-24T15:59:32.574-07:002012-07-24T15:59:32.574-07:00yes,to assure that the public airwaves are license...yes,to assure that the public airwaves are licensed to multiple owners who provide a multiplicity of views, to serve the public interest, need and necessity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-38687212865309049392012-07-24T13:31:26.942-07:002012-07-24T13:31:26.942-07:00Like your post and analogy, goose and golden eggs,...Like your post and analogy, goose and golden eggs, but let's hope Cumulus does the same to KNBR 680. <br />Then I will rejoice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-69023291024496639122012-07-24T10:42:10.130-07:002012-07-24T10:42:10.130-07:00Karel claims all talk show host run pre-taped show...Karel claims all talk show host run pre-taped shows<br /><br />Karel @talkradiolive<br />@Phoenix_m so basically you're just an ill informed asshole with a twitter account<br /> Hide conversation<br /> Reply Retweet Favorite<br /><br />8:55 AM - 24 Jul 12 via Twitter for iPad · Details<br /><br />20 Jul John P. Martin @Phoenix_m<br />@talkradiolive Thats why you'll never make the big money in radio you prerecord your shows. Do you think Beck, Hannity & Limbaugh prerecord?<br />Expand<br /> Reply Delete Favorite<br /><br />1h Karel @talkradiolive<br />@Phoenix_m I work seven days a week. Yes Friday and Monday are recorded that day. Every other host does it. Many are not live in your area<br />Hide conversation<br />Reply Retweet Favorite<br /><br />8:54 AM - 24 Jul 12 via Twitter for iPad · DetailsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-30039590925871089512012-07-24T10:33:32.143-07:002012-07-24T10:33:32.143-07:00to 6:04 pm...yes we do need new regulations and ru...to 6:04 pm...yes we do need new regulations and rules. We need more oversight and greater scrutiny. Over the last 15 years, the leash has been loosened and look what has happened.<br /><br /> Radio should not be in the hands of a few mega companies. Competition may be a good thing, but in recent years, we've allowed <br />mega-corporations to swallow up smaller companies, off shore work, downsize jobs, and lower the quality of a product.<br /><br /><br /> Just take a look at one area where quality has gone to the dogs:<br />customer service. How many businesses even have a receptionist anymore, or someone who even answers the phone and can help you out?<br /> <br />Most of the time you get routed to some call center in India where you can't even understand the person who is talking, and they know nothing about what your problem might be.<br /><br /> Unfettered capitalism is not a good thing..and don't confuse that with democracy. China is a classic example of what happens when capitalism runs amok. I was talking to an acquaintance of mine not long ago, (this gentleman owns several businesses in China), and he was telling me with a smile how "I can pretty much do anything I want with my businesses over there!" <br /><br /> The strength of this country has always been its middle class. They generate 70 percent of the dollars that buy the goods and services offered by these mega companies. But they're being squeezed and marginalized, losing their jobs because of consolidation.<br /><br /> You can't tell me that's a good thing, because we're going through the worst recession since the great depression, and there's no end in sight. Stronger regulation, more taxes for people who are making over 250 k, and greater transparency is needed if we're to get out of this mess.<br /><br /> I can't believe that so many Americans listen to the propaganda pushed by these politicians who are in the back pockets of these companies. <br /><br /> You want to go back to the 'Gilded Age' when the Vanderbilts, the Rockefellers and the Jay Goulds ran this country while fattening their bulging waste lines? <br /><br /> People like fatso Rush Limbaugh certainly do, because if we had more diversity in the media, we wouldn't have to suffer this blowhard spewing out his dreck on 700 stations nationwide. Instead we'd have local commentators and talk show hosts talking about local and regional issues of importance. And they wouldn't be trivializing, sensationalizing, and simplifying the issues as people like Limbaugh are wont to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-41922009538943640132012-07-24T09:15:02.486-07:002012-07-24T09:15:02.486-07:00@6:57
Change and "progress" may not nece...@6:57<br />Change and "progress" may not necessarily be for the better but it's unrelenting and irreversible.<br /><br />Name-calling and complaining isn't going to help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-50014502056633422382012-07-24T08:01:10.300-07:002012-07-24T08:01:10.300-07:00Yes, there were plenty of good times and things t...Yes, there were plenty of good times and things to be proud of and that's worth celebrating. KGO was a great station as was KNBR back in the era of 'the good times' when they had personalities such as Frank and Mike, Carter B. Smith and Leo LaPorte.<br /><br /> Sadly, the world has turned on its head and there's no going back.<br /><br /> Who would have thought however, that an industry as vital as radio would be dealt such a bad hand, and that the alarming turn for the worse would happen so quickly?<br /><br /> Yet it also happened in many other industries and who's to blame?<br />Right now our whole society is in the midst of a confusing transition that will probably not clear up for at least another decade. By that time, the recent past will be as recognizable as the early 20th century, as that's how quickly things are changing.<br /><br /> Its this a good thing? Who knows...but it's reality. Life goes on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-14972868919051316972012-07-24T02:48:37.257-07:002012-07-24T02:48:37.257-07:00Well Rich, as a former KGO/KSFO flunky, I agree wi...Well Rich, as a former KGO/KSFO flunky, I agree with you completely. The KGO call letters pre Cumulus stood for the best of the best; excellence, brilliance, trust, a service to the community and darn good radio. Sounds to me like you're grieving and I believe that many past listeners and employees are too. It was a good long run and to experience the demise of a radio station which was a dependable friend to many and a vital resource to more is sad! You've provided a forum for folks to vent and that's good. <br />And you've given a lot of space to the evil Cumulus (and I agree) and the former KGO on air talent which is the obvious talking point because it was so sad for so many to lose their jobs in a split second, particularly those who have not been able to return to radio. But how about paying tribute to the former management of KGO/KSFO during all those award winning, rating busting years of number one? I'm talking about Mickey Luckoff, Jack Swansan and Ken Barry. These three guys created a product which listeners in the San Francisco Bay Area not only enjoyed but relied upon for information and entertainment 24/7. It was no accident that the station was #1 for thirty three years in a row. How about giving your readers a treat and a bit of broadcasting history by reminding them of the brains behind all that success. There are a lot of good stories to tell....if only the walls of 900 Front Street could talk!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-63717197342903806662012-07-23T21:20:10.604-07:002012-07-23T21:20:10.604-07:00RAJKIRK,
So you're hoping to regain the qualit...RAJKIRK,<br />So you're hoping to regain the quality that's been lost? Good luck with that. How much have you regained so far?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-45719727245267171592012-07-23T20:04:18.222-07:002012-07-23T20:04:18.222-07:00So you think we need new laws and regulations?So you think we need new laws and regulations?Fair and Balancednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-23709454147797444662012-07-23T19:52:17.049-07:002012-07-23T19:52:17.049-07:00You called people shitheads you troll..You called people shitheads you troll..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-16547395120307383212012-07-23T19:20:32.066-07:002012-07-23T19:20:32.066-07:00So maybe when Cumulus drives KGO into the ground, ...So maybe when Cumulus drives KGO into the ground, someone else will buy the radio station at a firesale price. And they'll buy it because they'll know that there is a market because of the many comments being written continuously by former listeners. And with these blogs the word will spread quickly. Am I being wishful? Naive? Maybe. Or given how quickly the station is falling apart I don't think Cumulus will keep it too much longer before they flip it. <br /><br />The only reason KGO still has as much marketshare as it does is because it has a strong signal. 910 am has a much poorer/weaker signal. It will be difficult for 910 to reach the same audience, even with good hosts. Or maybe 910 will improve their signal quality (I'm in the South Bay) and reach a wider audience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-4959649645655973872012-07-23T18:57:07.903-07:002012-07-23T18:57:07.903-07:00I love these little Numb scull twits who say: &qu...I love these little Numb scull twits who say: "get over it dude!" You sad, uneducated, lazy, brain dead weasels are a prime reason this country has gone to the dogs! The only time you ever seem to read anything is when it's some misspelled, truncated text message that one of your 'buds' just sent you, or some inane 'tweet' about some poor dysfunctional celeb on rehab.<br /><br /> When I think of how everyone was so hopeful and looking forward to seeing an enlightened, motivated, and worldly new crop of young people emerging in the 21st century, and then viewing the current crop of dreck, it really saddens me. <br /><br /> I read the juvenile drivel from some of these pimply face trolls on blogs like this one and it only confirms my worst fears: much of the young generation today seems to be more concerned with acquiring the latest electronic gadgets, thus increasingly isolating themselves from other people while forgetting how to use basic face to face communication skills. <br /><br /> I wonder what kind of a sad legacy you're going to leave when you reach your 'golden years.'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-69717800998015290122012-07-23T17:28:21.008-07:002012-07-23T17:28:21.008-07:00I agree that the bay area has lost something truly...I agree that the bay area has lost something truly special. Mr/Ms "Anonymous" might be a current employee who profited from or supported the change, or as I suspect, someone with nothing better to do than intentionally stir things up for his/her own amusement. SO... I say ignore this person. It'll drive him/her crazy.AnXHoosierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13690156823526638327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-69245356749896202742012-07-23T17:11:10.383-07:002012-07-23T17:11:10.383-07:00What do you think? Just as an example: Are you h...What do you think? Just as an example: Are you happy with what the banking and broadcasting industries have been allowed to do because of lack of oversight and deregulation? <br /><br /> In theory, unfettered capitalism might work, but in reality, it's historically been proven to be a dangerous idea. There are unfortunately too many people in power who have been irresponsible, and it's cost this nation dearly. For a historical reference, look at how long labor had to fight (from the 1870s through the 1940s) before workers had the most basic of rights<br />(40 hour work week, basic health care, vacations, etc)<br /><br /><br />Many companies have bought their way into getting the Congress and Senate to deregulate and Citizens United, which was upheld by the Supreme Court has accelerated that process. <br /><br /> I can't believe anyone, with the possible exception of the few who have been profiting at the public's expense, believe that's a good thing for our country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-17742351848528146452012-07-23T16:08:43.906-07:002012-07-23T16:08:43.906-07:00How is this any different than the slow death of t...How is this any different than the slow death of the railroad?<br /><br />Riding trains was once the principle way people got from here to there. It was a routine part of people's lives and their experiences on trains, great times, bad times, etc. became indelibly part of their memories and their history.<br /><br />Now trains still exist but play a reduced role in modern society, replaced generally by cars and planes, whatever. <br /><br />Many may remember fabulous or at least unforgettable experiences on trains and feel that sitting stopped in their car on a freeway in bumper to bumper traffic is a lot worse than sitting back in comfortable railroad car while it's rolling down the track.<br /><br />They might be right but no matter how much you bitch and moan, things have changed and there's no turning back the clock.<br /><br />But whether you like it or notAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-70214970234284123222012-07-23T15:50:19.051-07:002012-07-23T15:50:19.051-07:00I'd like to know where in our US Constitution ...<i> I'd like to know where in our US Constitution does it mention anything about the rights of corporations to plunder and benefit at the expense of the rest of the public? </i><br /><br />That's not quite the point of the US Constitution which defines the powers of the three branches of government. The government enacts laws and regulations that pertain to corporations. If corporations violate those laws, there are penalties.<br /><br />Is your point that corporations have escaped punishment for violating existing laws or that new laws should be enacted?Fair and Balancednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-85549888340645423472012-07-23T15:46:33.672-07:002012-07-23T15:46:33.672-07:00All this nostalgia and hand-wringing is over the t...All this nostalgia and hand-wringing is over the top excessive.<br />The industry has changed and the economics have to change.<br />KGO's billings and ratings in the key demographics were declining steadily prior to the Cumulus takeover and KGO would not have been able to sustain the cost structure for much longer.<br /><br />Problem with Cumulus is the ham-handed way in which they implemented the changes and alienated listeners by hiring hosts who have little to offer other than shouting like Monty.<br /><br />I don't see how putting on loud-mouths like Monty or the "witch" will attract a younger demographic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-66098192589126149042012-07-23T14:20:20.933-07:002012-07-23T14:20:20.933-07:001:23 makes a good point; greed and the worship of...1:23 makes a good point; greed and the worship of the almighty dollar have driven our world to the brink of economic chaos. We do have the resources, both in human numbers and in raw material to make things work, but a small number of individuals take advantage of <br />our liberal laws to 'run the table,' in their favor.<br /><br /><br /> Still, I'd like to know where in our US Constitution does it mention anything about the rights of corporations to plunder and benefit at the expense of the rest of the public?<br /><br /> I am constantly amazed at people who blame our government for the problems we're currently facing. Yes, there is corruption, and certainly there are many elected officials who are pressured into 'looking the other way,' while the wolves of industry fleece our country. There's not better example of this than the oil, mining and cattle interests, which profit at the expense of the people by paying miniscule fees to exploit public lands while making obscene profits on their products. <br /><br /> As bad as things are today however, we should be thankful that conditions aren't as terrible as they were during the 'Gilded Age' of the late 19th and early 20th century, when corporations could call on governors or the President to call out police or federal forces to violently confront and if need be, shoot down workers, in an effort to silence those who only wanted a fair wage for long hours of toil. <br /><br /> Unfortunately today, unions are being marginalized, and that's especially true in the Bay Area radio scene, where AFTRA has become an endangered species. Media companies today would rather fire highly paid, competent, experienced professionals, and put rank amateurs on the air while paying them peanuts to save money. This is shortsided thinking, but more importantly, it's cheating the listeners and eroding one of our most important assets: a free and open minded media that acts as a watchdog.<br /><br /> What about public service, which is a part of the obligation written on the license that they signed to own a local radio station? To quote one of the most infamous magnates from that distasteful era of long ago: "THE PUBLIC BE DAMNED."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-7258145598917662622012-07-23T13:52:42.836-07:002012-07-23T13:52:42.836-07:00KGO was the town-hall-meeting that we could all at...KGO was the town-hall-meeting that we could all attend. We didn't even have to leave the house ... but it was fully portable, if we were out-and-about. We could choose to speak, or just listen to our neighbors, without our preference being judged. <br /><br />We didn't have to pretend to be happy with what we heard. Argument and debate were encouraged, as it invited MORE argument and debate. <br /><br />Like Jim Eason's "office party," it never stopped - just open the door (turn on the radio), it was there. We were welcome for as long as we wanted to stay -- and welcomed back, after we'd left.<br /><br />Once, KGO used the tag line: "The American Way of Radio." It was.<br /><br />Some taunt: "Forget it. It's gone." I hope Cumulus is paying them extra/per post, but I doubt it.<br /><br />No, we won't forget it. Let's figure out a way to get it back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-18325610864612947222012-07-23T13:27:13.959-07:002012-07-23T13:27:13.959-07:00OK, so things changed for the worse. Do you think...OK, so things changed for the worse. Do you think if you stomp your feet and hold your breath till you turn blue things will revert back to the way they were?<br /><br />And why the name-calling?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-62786531695706010152012-07-23T13:23:30.334-07:002012-07-23T13:23:30.334-07:009:57 is nibbling at the edges, but hasn’t really g...9:57 is nibbling at the edges, but hasn’t really gotten to the heart of the issue. Passing new laws ain’t gonna work, unless you fix the deeper problem, and I don’t know if that is possible.<br /><br />The KGO situation is not an isolated case but is symptomatic of a much deeper problem in western (particularly American) society. That is, the worship of money to the detriment of everything else. I’m not knocking money, I LOVE it! It’s a wonderful tool. But when it is a goal in and of itself, it becomes a destructive cancer that gnaws at the fabric of society. <br /><br />It may sound trite, but it’s true: Do good work and the money will follow, and the greater society will also benefit. The old KGO did good work, we (the public) benefitted, and the money did follow – just not enough for Cumulus. What makes the KGO situation REALLY depressing is that it’s not an aberration – rather, it’s just one of many recent examples of “doing it for the money” to the exclusion of all other values.<br /><br />The following may sound a bit off topic, but it gets to the crux of the matter.<br /><br />Recently a bluefin tuna, ONE FISH, fetched $736,000. If money is the only object, bluefin tuna will become extinct, because as their numbers dwindle, they will fetch higher and higher prices, creating an ever growing incentive to eradicate a species that is already in rapid decline.<br /><br />If this mentality does not change, not just the tuna are doomed, but so are we.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-84236113032752036422012-07-23T12:50:44.391-07:002012-07-23T12:50:44.391-07:00This is more than just strolling down memory lane;...This is more than just strolling down memory lane; it is strolling down quality lane. We lost quality. Quality is much more than just a memory. A loss of quality is significant and definitely worth revisiting in order to regain what has been lost.RAJKIRKnoreply@blogger.com