tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post2478409628501662715..comments2024-03-28T21:09:49.408-07:00Comments on RICH LIEBERMAN 415 MEDIA: Exclusive: KTVU Fake Pilot Name List OKed by Station 'Managing Editor Who Wasn't Fired; Station Feared Backlash by SF-Area Asian Community; Source That Provided Fake List Was Ex-PilotRich Liebermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18174495340920055435noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-29219567051825939072013-08-28T10:39:18.846-07:002013-08-28T10:39:18.846-07:00Nice post with great details. Thanks for sharing. ...Nice post with great details. Thanks for sharing. <a href="" rel="nofollow"> incident management </a>Safdar Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00270407097996992545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-79636497688732575172013-08-17T10:12:34.499-07:002013-08-17T10:12:34.499-07:00Bottom line. She raised the red flag and was clea...Bottom line. She raised the red flag and was clearly overruled. The buck did not stop there. It wasn't her final decision to make. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-53706395552953199202013-08-17T10:10:09.085-07:002013-08-17T10:10:09.085-07:00Wasn't her fault that they put up wrong stuff ...Wasn't her fault that they put up wrong stuff to read... Remember... Tori's primary function there is to simply read you the news...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-36901042693287633142013-08-08T07:18:30.761-07:002013-08-08T07:18:30.761-07:00@9:08 PM -- The only thing that's been minimiz...@9:08 PM -- The only thing that's been minimized is your display of intelligence. The widespread, hysterical need to find deep meaning and ill intent in the killing of Oscar Grant is not the mark of a smart and sophisticated society, it is instead the mark of the undeveloped, tribal mindset -- the kind that sees evil and requires reparation for even the most obvious of accidents. <br /><br />Each and every day some innocent person is killed by an illegal left turn, an unattended swimming pool, or job site inattention. Oscar Grant was killed by a stupid mistake made by a man with no history of such behavior. I apologize if you are not grown up enough to handle that simple truth.<br /><br />As for "rational adults," you referred to Oscar Grant as a "child," and, without a shred of evidence, formed wild conclusions about my view on African-Americans. Is that the mark of a rational mind? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-77530596675905958242013-08-08T00:11:22.918-07:002013-08-08T00:11:22.918-07:00Cox-sucker.Cox-sucker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-33944980948670340242013-08-07T21:39:12.670-07:002013-08-07T21:39:12.670-07:00For all the whiners complaining about why Rich is ...For all the whiners complaining about why Rich is coverig this - and they think it's "not a story" - The Chron linked to it, and it's the NUMBA ONE read story on sfgate.com! (Numba one as in numba one; not numba one as a junior high fake stupid ethnic joke.)<br /><br />Are all of these folks NOT leaders??!! As several folks have said, anyone with common sense, a little life experience, some C-A-H-O-N-E-S -- would have STOPPED THE PRESSES - and done a double / triple / quadruple check on these names. Sorry, even that don't work. OK, I'll give you one accidental "We Too Loo" name... but FOUR?!?! Impossible!<br /><br />Because Ms. Toy let it go, I don't think should give her a pass.<br /><br />If Ms. Toy & Tori Campbell stay around, will we ever be able to trust them at their jobs?<br /><br />Rich: tip: why not call up and inerview former KTVU General Manager Kevin O'Brien - brash, colorful, fun, super bright - and get his take on the situation? That would be another way you could beat the local scribes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-77910657709654446522013-08-07T21:22:26.365-07:002013-08-07T21:22:26.365-07:00Rich, I give you a solid (TM Weiner) 10 points for...Rich, I give you a solid (TM Weiner) 10 points for that reply. Spot on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-33117031917034681142013-08-07T21:16:27.788-07:002013-08-07T21:16:27.788-07:00So Ms Toy wa sspared. WOW. Talk about pandering an...So Ms Toy wa sspared. WOW. Talk about pandering and double standards...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-85621814312039677892013-08-07T21:08:12.975-07:002013-08-07T21:08:12.975-07:00Rational adults are rejecting your comparison beca...Rational adults are rejecting your comparison because you obviously seek to minimize the murder of a black child. Bugs you that so many people don't criminalize black life the way you think they should, doesn't it. Boo hoo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-51634172680793017512013-08-07T17:19:24.752-07:002013-08-07T17:19:24.752-07:00I have lived in Oakland since 1978. I am white. ...I have lived in Oakland since 1978. I am white. I have observed the racial and ethnic divisions from the vantage point of living in the flatlands. There is no way you can convince me that anyone at KTVU, if they were intelligent, thoughtful, aware people, could have missed this kind of thing. I don't care about relying on people, I don't care about trusting your team, I don't care about working at deadline, I don't care about expressing concerns - at some point, you have to take responsibility for not being as perceptive as you are supposed to be. Everyone involved should be busy admitting how truly out of it they were at the time - even Toy - and admit that if they really lived a multicultural existence, this would not have been possible.<br /><br />That being said, what's up with the decision of the so-called consultant? What kind of character, background and personality does he have? I get American humor, I was raised here, but this is so beyond the pale that you have wonder what that person was doing in the business in the Bay Area in the first place? I would say that everything written above applies to him too, but clearly, his point of view was so deeply ingrained in insult and disrespect that he could not even pass it off as humor. We know humor about race and ethnicity when we hear it. It's 2013. This is not it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-30371344028751320672013-08-07T16:28:59.372-07:002013-08-07T16:28:59.372-07:00the fact that she thought the names were strange b...the fact that she thought the names were strange because they seemed Chinese means she didnt even catch the joke! I wonder if she actually speaks the language.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-10259539082247825672013-08-07T15:53:10.779-07:002013-08-07T15:53:10.779-07:00This is a perfect example of how dumbed down "...This is a perfect example of how dumbed down "main stream" media has become. Coming in at 7th grade level at best. Now you know why the rest of the world considers Americans so incredibly ignorant and uninformed about the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-16572970304281620272013-08-07T12:48:47.686-07:002013-08-07T12:48:47.686-07:00Coffee and fresh peaches. Every day.Coffee and fresh peaches. Every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-7149675518148138472013-08-07T12:46:02.341-07:002013-08-07T12:46:02.341-07:00Yes. As a matter of fact, there is something fund...Yes. As a matter of fact, there is something fundamentally wrong with that. What's wrong with that is the very reason the TV news business is the joke it is today: People are hired for every reason under the sun EXCEPT their ability to actually do the job. People are fired only when it won't cause a special interest group to protest. "We can't fire the gay guy because the gays will picket. We can't fire the Asian woman because the Asian community will be offended." It's total B.S. If you can't do the job, you shouldn't have the job. Period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-9331731507199399582013-08-07T12:26:23.538-07:002013-08-07T12:26:23.538-07:00More like Wi Fuk Dup, right?More like Wi Fuk Dup, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-19189785459838737082013-08-07T12:14:32.287-07:002013-08-07T12:14:32.287-07:00Token Asian Female who thinks everything is All Wi...Token Asian Female who thinks everything is All Wight!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-72688120439863499022013-08-07T12:02:50.549-07:002013-08-07T12:02:50.549-07:00Managing Editor Toy questioned the names and even ...Managing Editor Toy questioned the names and even stated they were Chinese not Korean but deferred to the expert. Sometimes that happens. <br /><br />Also if that's on record, and she questioned the whole thing, seems she has some protection under the law if terminated. <br /><br />Any way, methinks several people will visit the ex-pilot/new sources to KTVU and break his knee caps. Seriously, you cause four people to lose their jobs, something will happen. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-35561435747001969152013-08-07T11:12:44.439-07:002013-08-07T11:12:44.439-07:00I still don't believe John Wilkes Booth was ac...I still don't believe John Wilkes Booth was acting alone. Who was really behind the Lincoln assassination?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-7500987714441290092013-08-07T11:02:18.286-07:002013-08-07T11:02:18.286-07:00I also saw that many of the people who retweeted t...I also saw that many of the people who retweeted the KTVU original tweet quickly updated with "CORRECTION" versions when it was clear that KTVU was in error. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-3910089253584269192013-08-07T10:54:04.976-07:002013-08-07T10:54:04.976-07:00This is another example of KTVU trying to hide its...This is another example of KTVU trying to hide its errors. Note on Stan Bunger's feed that his reaction to the original KTVU tweet delivered at 4:59pm. The original, incorrect KTVU tweet was deleted and replaced with a "sanitized" version at 5:01pm. Keep it up Raponi & Rosenthal and your station's remaining credibility will vanish in a heartbeat. Pathetic, rank amateurs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-12838876944605278382013-08-07T10:47:35.813-07:002013-08-07T10:47:35.813-07:00Exactly!Exactly!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-39447462360933772702013-08-07T10:33:34.091-07:002013-08-07T10:33:34.091-07:00@7:18 AM -- What kind of brain food did you have f...@7:18 AM -- What kind of brain food did you have for breakfast? Whatever it was, I want some. Four hammer blows and you nailed it tight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-28182759413479421982013-08-07T10:01:26.049-07:002013-08-07T10:01:26.049-07:00Now we know the name of the News Editor referred t...Now we know the name of the News Editor referred to by the Chronicle last week. But the pilot source, that's something new. We still don't know who actually wrote the story but at least we have the origin. And I swear I saw some where Janice Gin was actually gone the week before this happened so that would kill 6:13 AM's theory. July 12 might simply have been for accounting purposes. (July 12th was a Friday, possibly a pay day if the company pays its employees every 2 weeks)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-22789183584147708132013-08-07T09:59:03.129-07:002013-08-07T09:59:03.129-07:00I'm waiting for Lieberman to rehash the Lindbe...I'm waiting for Lieberman to rehash the Lindbergh baby kidnapping once he tires of this story. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029870750479192711.post-43619812191694547672013-08-07T09:49:50.628-07:002013-08-07T09:49:50.628-07:00How come no one else is reporting this "Exclu...How come no one else is reporting this "Exclusive"?<br />Maybe it's "Exclusive" for a reason? <br />IT'S NOT A REAL STORY<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com